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Old 01-12-2009, 01:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thinning hair?

Ok.. so i've been noticing lately that Lexx's hair seems to be thinning in some places...

its always been quite thin on his stomach and under his arms, but now he has a weird patch on his bum that seems thinner and also it seems thinner along his spine...

any clue? He's had full blood panels done for everything under the sun and nothing seems to be wrong ( ie no thyroid etc)

could it be a diet issue? He eats wellness Core (regular) supplemented with tripe, sometimes canned CORE, yogurt, vit E and vit C as well as Nori
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Ok.. so i've been noticing lately that Lexx's hair seems to be thinning in some places...

its always been quite thin on his stomach and under his arms, but now he has a weird patch on his bum that seems thinner and also it seems thinner along his spine...

any clue? He's had full blood panels done for everything under the sun and nothing seems to be wrong ( ie no thyroid etc)

could it be a diet issue? He eats wellness Core (regular) supplemented with tripe, sometimes canned CORE, yogurt, vit E and vit C as well as Nori

I've been noticing similar things in Dante. Will be interested in reading the replies.
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Stress, medications, poor digestion..............so many things can affect the coat condition.


doberkim started a thread somehwere about how Rah is growing a thicker coat now.
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Can you provide a pic? I have found with age my dogs tend to thin out a bit on their stomachs from always being the carpet is what my vet says. Under the arm area there usually isn't alot of hair, some but not alot. Does it look irritated? red?
I know that doesn't really help
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I'll try to snap some pics tonight. No irritation at all, he doesn't seem bothered by it at all actually. no scratching, doesn't mind if I touch it etc.

lexx has never had a really "nice" coat. Its more of a coarse type of hair, not sleek like some dobes I see. It doesn't matter what he eats.

I'm really starting to worry he has issues absorbing nutrients, i may start him on some digestive enzymes...
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Have you ever taken a look at Storm's regimen? It was designed for a blue dobe with CDA but it might have some ideas for you. One of the supplements listed I thought might be worth looking into...

Rose Ox, an antioxidant made from Rosemary. Rosemary is said to stimulate hair growth.

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I have found over the past couple years, that all of my red dogs (and funny, this is only boys, weird) have really crappy thinning coats...that becomes noticeable the same time of year, which is in the last week or two. Hmmm....maybe too much egg nog over Christmas? I don't know. But I have a recipe somewhere that I tried and it worked wonderfully. Ozzie (Lexx's dad) is going on it too. His coat looks kind of thin but then someone suggested the time of year, maybe an early shed for the summer? I don't know, but I can say this is the third year and the same time this has happened.
I'll post the recipe once I find it. For now i have ozzie on Vit C, Nzymes, fish oils, and more crap!
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I had a similar problem with Macy for like 2 months, she just had a random bald spot on her side, we didnt know what it was from, because it wasnt irritated or anything so we gave her some flea meds. and it started growing back. But we never saw her itching so I dont think she had fleas.
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gatehouse, what kind of enzymes do you feed?

i think i might try adding Mike's witches brew thing back into lexx's diet, he recommended it to me awhile ago for the reds...
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Sounds like Kip (red 3 year old male), only he is really itchy and also has thinning hair under his neck. Had been giving him oil as a supplement but then I read that oil might increase chance of bloat. Not again!! Also have been playing around with one protein source dog food, not really any change. So now what? Vet people (or anyone else)--have you seen any studies on problems with oil supplementation?
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Sounds like Kip (red 3 year old male), only he is really itchy and also has thinning hair under his neck. Had been giving him oil as a supplement but then I read that oil might increase chance of bloat. Not again!! Also have been playing around with one protein source dog food, not really any change. So now what? Vet people (or anyone else)--have you seen any studies on problems with oil supplementation?
My red boy who is 5 months is having these same issues! I have him on chicken soup for the dog lover soul, raw chicken (4 breasts) Dogzymes, focus wt, and sometimes 1 cup of cottage cheese, I really dont think its diet since he is a whoofer, do reds normally have such a coarse coat, he is our first so Im not sure what to expect, HELP!!!
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My red boy who is 5 months is having these same issues! I have him on chicken soup for the dog lover soul, raw chicken (4 breasts) Dogzymes, focus wt, and sometimes 1 cup of cottage cheese, I really dont think its diet since he is a whoofer, do reds normally have such a coarse coat, he is our first so Im not sure what to expect, HELP!!!
Technically a coarse coat is correct, not a soft coat.

For thinning coat, first thing I'd check is thyroid.

I had one red with horrible coat problems and even tho we regulated his thyroid at the highest dose my vet had seens his coat still never looked great until I put him on raw. He just didn't seem to thrive on commerical dog food, even the top brands.
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Lexxmom- didnt you just change his diet though? I thought you stated somewhere that he wasnt having a raw diet further- maybe it is the diet change? Whenever I changed my girls diet her coat was the first place to show it- that is the way I would know if some foods did not agree with her. Just a thought-
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just so that you guys know... this thread is from January.



given everything that lexx has been through since january, i'm no longer surprised at his coat being a bit thin in places, but honestly, since its been summer, his coat has been a lot better.
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Lexxmom- didnt you just change his diet though? I thought you stated somewhere that he wasnt having a raw diet further- maybe it is the diet change? Whenever I changed my girls diet her coat was the first place to show it- that is the way I would know if some foods did not agree with her. Just a thought-
No we have him on chicken soup for the dog lovers soul and raw. He just loves his dry kibble.He use to be on a only dry kibble we just started incorporating raw in his diet that was the change we made. We did that about a month or so ago when he went through a gangle stage. I did hear that canned Mackral was good for there coat, have you ever fed that?
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Update on Kip's coat: we finally broke down and had him allergy tested--he has allergies to mites and house dust. Now we give him allergy shots once a week. So that seems to help with a lot of the itching. We also treated him for mites--not thinking of mange, but of a kind of mite which causes "walking dandruff". Antibiotics for the pimples. His coat on his back is very much improved, no dandruff--but he still has a very thin coat on his thighs and underside.
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juggernaut... that quote ( and question) was for me, not you.

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Old 08-14-2009, 07:51 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Update on Kip's coat: we finally broke down and had him allergy tested--he has allergies to mites and house dust. Now we give him allergy shots once a week. So that seems to help with a lot of the itching. We also treated him for mites--not thinking of mange, but of a kind of mite which causes "walking dandruff". Antibiotics for the pimples. His coat on his back is very much improved, no dandruff--but he still has a very thin coat on his thighs and underside.
HMM this makes me wonder if it may be allergies for my juggs. I have allergies to Dust and we are remodeling, I just had a really bad attack the other night. HMMMM Ill keep my eye on that one. Good that you got some news for your boy!
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My red boy who is 5 months is having these same issues! I have him on chicken soup for the dog lover soul, raw chicken (4 breasts) Dogzymes, focus wt, and sometimes 1 cup of cottage cheese, I really dont think its diet since he is a whoofer, do reds normally have such a coarse coat, he is our first so Im not sure what to expect, HELP!!!
I think that I have your dog's littermate (the "Love" litter).....and had some of the same issues. After several dermatologist visits, I switched her to a grain-free diet. She is on California Naturals Herring and Sweet Potato and her coat has improved tremendously. Should have listened to Sharon from Kettle Cove who suggested that I give this a try at the on-set. Just thought that I'd share as I came across your old post.

She also gets kelp and fish oil daily.

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