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DRY DRY DRY ITCHING Skin

Rubys skin is VERY VERY DRY.. she is itching all the time now .. i have doubled her salmon oil, and am thinking of tripling it or more, what else can i give her to get rid of the dry skin? she cant have chicken as she is allergic to it, and itches ten times more when she gets it.. i also have organic virgin coconut oil at home too, and was thinking of givng her that too. what other meats/fishes or moisturizers can i give her? i already blocked off the heating vent that she lays next to as she itches even more after she lays near the heat... i boiled a pot of water, that didnt work. we have forced hot air heat, and a humidifier. nothing is working.

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Have you tried sardines or raw eggs? Mine get the fish oil every day. I give sardines and raw eggs a couple of times a week also. Sometimes I will add canned salmon also. Mine are always drier this time of the year. I am also supplementing their diet with raw. Mine get chicken, beef, turkey patties, etc. I do think that it helps with dry skin, because they aren't as flakey this winter as they usually are.
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she gets sardines/mackarels, but cant have anything chicken including eggs as she is allergic to them, she is on a full raw diet already

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she gets sardines/mackarels, but cant have anything chicken including eggs as she is allergic to them, she is on a full raw diet already
Well I have heard that some people put mild lotion on them, such as Lubriderm.
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Try fish and patato dog food .... I used main and tail lotion on my itchy dogs worked wonders.



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Java's coat was flakier when she got any grain/corn in her diet. Canned Alaskan salmon (on sale now) seems to help keep her coat in good shape during the winter. I also use a rubber 'mitt' brush on her coat to help distribute whatever oil in in her coat to the ends and lossen any flakey skin. It feels like a massage and my two love it when I brush their coats against the grain - they arch their backs like a couple of Hallowe'en cats. One thing I've noticed on salmon and fish oil: the stool is looser, but better that than having them constipated.
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she cant eat dry dog food as she is allergic to the storage mites in the food, if i give her dry food or treats she breaks out in hives.. so kibble is out. i am going to pick up canned salmon today at the store lunchtime to bring home tonight..

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I would try a hand lotion as already suggested or the spray suggested above, use a small amount and work into the coat, start w/ a small amount to make sure she's not allegic
Also dogs can build immunity to oils, just like humans, and the way the oils are processed make a difference, cold pressed is the best thing. I highly suggest this product as it combines different oils and is a extremely good product, I have seen wonderful results w/ it. Ultra Refined Essential Omega’s for Dogs & Cats It's really the only thing that helps my boy w/ dry skin
Next I would place a humidifer where she spends most of her time, I do this every winter even though we have a whole house humidifer
Also I cook Salmon or buy canned salmon and feed about a palm size amount each day, it will really make a difference
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Great thread & advice! I need something, my baby is so dry!
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Do you know what the humidity levels are in your house? Most house are so air tight now that very little fresh moist air can get in. I have a little humidity gage in my house, and as I have wood heat i always have water in a pot on my stove to help bring up the humidity.
Salmon is a GREAT way to add more oils to your dogs skin. One of my pup owners makes homemade dog food. He said that when he uses beef as the meat source his girls coat and skin dry out, but when he uses Salmon, she SHINES, no dryness at all.

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I had heard that you could use a 50/50 mixture of Keri bath oil and water to spray on the coat during the dry winter months to help with flaking, etc.

Anyone ever heard this or tried anything close to this?

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When I used to bath my dogs { I only bath them now if they roll in something disgusting} I used the Keri Bath oil in the rinse water, occasionally.

Another reason why some dogs get dry skin and coats is because they do not drink enough water. Try adding a little Organic, Natural Sea salt to their food, it will make them want to consume more water.

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i got cold pressed flaxseed oil, virgin olive oil, and virgin coconut oil today.. i greased her up with the coconut oil and she smells yummy., and in her food she got half a teaspoon of flaxseed, olive oil, coconut oil, and her salmon oil in her food. my house is not that dry, its the heating system which is forced hot air. we have a humidifier as well that works really good.. i also blocked off the heating vent so she cant lay next to it and roast.. she drinks a good amount of water as well. i also picked up canned pink salmon at the store as well .. i figure it might take a few weeks for all the oils to work. but keep the ideas coming..

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There are several good sprays on the market that work great for dry skin. One is Miracle Coat Miracle Mist – which the instructions say to use for cuts and scratches, but I have been using this on Sora's entire body to help heal tiny bald spots with good success. It does leave the skin a little greasy for my liking though.

Another product I plan on trying is Miracle Coat Luster Spray. The description sounds really good for dry skin etc.

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A tried and true home remedy that also works great is 1/3 Listerine (the original kind) 1/3 baby oil and 1/3 water. The original brand Listerine contains several oils -thymol, eucalyptol, menthol, methyl salicylate. Eucalyptus and Menthol are believed to be anti-fungal oils that really freshen the skin, and the baby oil helps keep the skin moisturized. Some people even use this mixture for dandruff.


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Dandruff in Dobes.

My female Dobe is having issues with dandruff right now and Ive been reading some of the posts here on how to handle skin and coat issues, I just started using the salmon oil, My wife hates the smell though :-( I also heard of a product called K9 show stopper. that is supposed to be really good for Dobes for dandruff and their coats. It is apparently used alot in the show circuit. I wanted to find out if anyone has used it or has knowledge of it and can give me some information on its usefulness. Also any really good topical treatements that will keep the dandruff down and the coat shiny without leaving the coat oily would be very helpful as well.

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I have been putting mineral oil in a spray bottle, applying it directly on her coat, and massaging into her skin. A little greasy but eventually soaks in a couple of days, makes her coat look really shiny to. This year has been really bad for dryness.

I also have used apple cider vinagar diluted with water in a spray bottle. Stops the itchies almost immediately. Again cold pressed is the best.

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I have been putting mineral oil in a spray bottle, applying it directly on her coat, and massaging into her skin. A little greasy but eventually soaks in a couple of days, makes her coat look really shiny to. This year has been really bad for dryness.

I also have used apple cider vinagar diluted with water in a spray bottle. Stops the itchies almost immediately. Again cold pressed is the best.

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I bought the mineral oil at Shoppers Drug Mart (Heavy Mineral Oil USP Life Brand)

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Our dobe has very dry flaky skin too. My vet recommended fish oil orally, and using a leave on conditioner with oatmeal and/or aloe vera in it, and a shampoo with the same ingredients. If we apply the conditioner twice a week he does great, but if we forget it starts to get bad again.
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Cool I have the same problem

I have an 18 mo. old that has scratched his hair off in places. So I took him to my vet who gave me a wrong diagnosis. I then took him to a dermatology specalist. It is food allergies. Sounds like your dog is allergic to something else that is in the diet. What food do you use? You should avoid foods with Corn/Wheat fillers. A good food can make the difference. I am putting my dog on a vegetarian diet and will work my way up adding a meat every 2 weeks till I pinpoint the allergens. I would recommend a food like Canidae, Avoderm, or Nutro. They are all natural and can help significantly with the itching. Also, there are prescription meds that can help. I have used Tamaril, but the infection is too bad, so we are going to use Prednasone to help my boy. Ask your vet if this would be a viable option for you.

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Rubys skin is VERY VERY DRY.. she is itching all the time now .. i have doubled her salmon oil, and am thinking of tripling it or more, what else can i give her to get rid of the dry skin? she cant have chicken as she is allergic to it, and itches ten times more when she gets it.. i also have organic virgin coconut oil at home too, and was thinking of givng her that too. what other meats/fishes or moisturizers can i give her? i already blocked off the heating vent that she lays next to as she itches even more after she lays near the heat... i boiled a pot of water, that didnt work. we have forced hot air heat, and a humidifier. nothing is working.
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Silence had the same problem, it was more flaky skin than anything, but the one thing I did that no vet told me (an experienced groomer that did show cuts and care as well) was rub pure aloe vera gel on him all over! In a week of consistently applying the gel 3 times a day the dryness was gone, his patchy-ness was gone as well.
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she is on raw, i dont feed kibble at all. she has been on a food trial and so far is allergic to the raw chicken, so we are doing just turkey now to see how that goes, its been 3 weeks on turkey, and the scratching has gone down 60% .. she cant have much meds as her kidneys are are underdeveloped and my vet doesnt want to load her up on drugs..

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I was going to suggest the virgin coconut oil, but I see you bought some :-) I hope that helps, I give it to Murphy and Daisy now. Another one that I haven't tried, but heard good things about, is Ultra Oil. Ultra Oil For Pets

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