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Old 05-25-2006, 09:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone know at what age (approximately of course) Dobermans should have all of their permanent teeth? Rommel will be 7 months (and getting so big) on June 2nd, and all of his teeth are not in yet.

Anyone know around what age I should expect him to have them all?
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Old 05-25-2006, 07:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Does anyone know at what age (approximately of course) Dobermans should have all of their permanent teeth? Rommel will be 7 months (and getting so big) on June 2nd, and all of his teeth are not in yet.

Anyone know around what age I should expect him to have them all?
I'd expect him to have them all by 7 months. As I remember, Razzle's (my latest puppy) teeth were all in by around 5-5.5 months..puppies are routinely shown with full mouths at six months of age.

Teeth come in from front to back. Which teeth are still missing? Missing teeth certainly aren't unusual in this breed, the most common ones being premolars, then incisors.

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Old 05-25-2006, 08:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think he is missing one tooth. I printed off the picture of what the mouth is supposed to look like from DPCA website. I think he is missing Pre-Molar #3 on the Lower Right.

The teeth in the back are in, so does that mean that all of his teeth are fully developed? Like, full size I guess is what I am asking. We have been working him on a jute tug latley and I am afraid we are wearing down his teeth. I am just wondering if his mouth is fully developed or if we are putting to much stress on his teeth right now.



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The teeth in the back are in, so does that mean that all of his teeth are fully developed? Like, full size I guess is what I am asking. We have been working him on a jute tug latley and I am afraid we are wearing down his teeth. I am just wondering if his mouth is fully developed or if we are putting to much stress on his teeth right now.
The molars are the last teeth to erupt..so if the molars are in, then I'd say he's probably always going to have a gap where that premolar should be. More than likely the tooth was never there as a result of genetics, that would be the most plausible explanation.
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Old 05-26-2006, 09:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't know that I'd be playing heavy tug games with a 7 month old puppy. One of the things that owners often don't realize is that even though all the teeth are usually in by 5 to 5.5 months the big reason that puppies continue to chew like little beavers for months after the teeth are in is that chewing is natures way of "setting" the teeth in the jaw. Tug type games can and occasionally do pull teeth out of alignment. I've never heard of anyone actually pulling a tooth out completely though.

I agree with Cheryl--if the molars are in your pup just has a missing premolar--as she also said those are also the commonest of missing teeth when teeth just never come in.

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Old 05-26-2006, 01:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I''ve also heard what Dobebug said about waiting for the teeth to be "set" before playing a lot of tug, especially when what you're really doing is intro to bitework. It's not so much about wearing down the teeth as it is about loosening the teeth.
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Old 05-27-2006, 06:45 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for the advice guys, we appreciate it. When do you think it will be safe to start using the tug? I think we will lay off of it for a while, let him watch some of the older dogs and focus on his tracking and obedience. He has made huge improvements in both areas over the last few weeks, so it wont hurt my feelings to slow down on the bite work for a while. He has plenty of time to work on that.
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A vet dentist told me one time that generally a year is the point at which you can start playing heavy duty "tug" games. Light tugging prior to that just to keep him interested and so that he gets to "win" games is OK but the kind of all out stuff that I see pictures of from time to time on the various bite boards where very young dogs are swung from a tug or pulled off their feet should not be undertaken until the dog is pretty much an adult. (Actually with Dobe that sort of hard core tugging scares me--I worry about their necks, backs and intervertebral discs)

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Old 05-29-2006, 06:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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"Win" games is really all we play, as long as he has a full grip he gets the prize. No swinging around or anything. Some of the adult dogs do that, it is cool to watch, but I agree sometimes it looks like it could be dangerous.

Schutzhund is not a way of life for me. Don't get me wrong, I love doing it, Rommel and I have alot of fun out there (we are BOTH learning alot, and I have learned alot about him and what makes him tick) If he decided tommorrow that Schutzhund just wasnt his thing anymore, we would pack it up and head for the beach He has learned alot from the Schutzund field, and 99% of it is not bite work, he LOVES tracking, and he is doing great at obedience too (to have such a dummie owner..hahaha) But like I said, I dont want to ruin his teeth pushing bite work, so I thought I would ask.

Thanks for the info dobebug, micdobe, and murraydobe, we appreciate it.
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A few months back I noticed that Chi was missing that exact same tooth on both sides. In fact, I was going to post and ask about it but then completely forgot. I just checked and the teeth are there now (creepy Twilight Zone music playing)... She turns one year next week so maybe it'll pop up a bit later like hers did...
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Wow, that is odd. Well maybe his will come in after all! (I wont get my hopes up) but that would be cool if it did! That one tooth leaves a pretty large gap!
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