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09-08-2008, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WorkingInSTL I am VERY familiar with Mizzou and the veterinary college. Apparently squeezing the abscess made a huge difference. He was able to walk on it fine after doing that. The doc. said it is definitely bacterial (ran a slide under the microscope. The plan right now is to wait until the antibiotics have run their course, then retest the thyroid (which needs to be done anyways).
Thanks to everyone who participated thusfar. I have some things to bounce off of the doc the next time I talk to him. | So, you said you'd done some investigating, prior.
Just to clarify, then DM has already been ruled out?
Because the foot issue may indeed be bacterial, but the diabetes may be driving it, especially since you're seeing recurrences.
And, cringing even as I type this, but I've had another thought and it's maybe waaaay out there, but. Animals with poor circulation due to heart disease often show up with issues with the extremities, so. Agh. I hate to even bring that up, and maybe Reddobes can speak to if it's even likely enough to investigate--but I would have felt weird not throwing it out there, just in case.
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09-10-2008, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFawnRising So, you said you'd done some investigating, prior.
Just to clarify, then DM has already been ruled out?
Because the foot issue may indeed be bacterial, but the diabetes may be driving it, especially since you're seeing recurrences.
And, cringing even as I type this, but I've had another thought and it's maybe waaaay out there, but. Animals with poor circulation due to heart disease often show up with issues with the extremities, so. Agh. I hate to even bring that up, and maybe Reddobes can speak to if it's even likely enough to investigate--but I would have felt weird not throwing it out there, just in case. | We know with absolute certainty that his infections are bacterial. The ultimate question is, of course, why the frequency ? Repeated abscesses are not a "normal" thing.
The demodex is antillary, and I throw that out there because it is known, and may offer some insight as to what is going on. He seems to have a general skin/coat issue anyway. I can't help but think this is all related.
I didn't think about the possibility of his being diabetic. Another suggestion to make to the doc. I don't think it's a cardiac problem, but what do I know ?
As far as investigation, I have never investigated Mizzou, but after having a dog with DCM spend 3 days in their ICU, I have a little bit of personal insight on them (yet I digress, again...) |
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09-11-2008, 01:34 AM
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| We know with absolute certainty that his infections are bacterial.
Right, I was agreeing with you on that, had assumed you had it cultured. Sorry if my wording made it seem I was questioning it.
The point, which you got, so I won't belabor it, is that DM may be driving the susceptibility to the bacteria.
I'm not familiar if there is any correlation to uncontrolled glucose levels and demodex flare-ups, but your doc may know.
I know the cardio thing is kinda out there, like I said--it's just something else to rule out, if you get to a point where you're looking for zebras, not horses, just sayin'.
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09-11-2008, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFawnRising We know with absolute certainty that his infections are bacterial.
Right, I was agreeing with you on that, had assumed you had it cultured. Sorry if my wording made it seem I was questioning it.
The point, which you got, so I won't belabor it, is that DM may be driving the susceptibility to the bacteria.
I'm not familiar if there is any correlation to uncontrolled glucose levels and demodex flare-ups, but your doc may know.
I know the cardio thing is kinda out there, like I said--it's just something else to rule out, if you get to a point where you're looking for zebras, not horses, just sayin'. | I don't know the DM is driving it, so much as it is a result of the same underlying cause. I have no idea about any correlation to uncontrolled glucose levels at all.
I appreciate the input that you have given, along with the contribution of everyone else who has participated thusfar. I'm not on a zera hunt yet, but, I feel we may be quickly approaching that point. |
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09-11-2008, 06:23 PM
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| | Alpha | As far as investigation, I have never investigated Mizzou, but after having a dog with DCM spend 3 days in their ICU, I have a little bit of personal insight on them (yet I digress, again...)[/quote]
Did you have a problem with Mizzou? I have no connection there, just wondering. Everyone I've known to take their dogs there were very satisfied with the experience. Would love to hear about your experience there. Can never get too much info in case I might ever (God forbid) have serious issues with one of my dogs. |
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