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Old 08-17-2013, 01:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cephalexin and prednisone

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As some of you may remember Toorc has had some unlucky skin issues since a few weeks after bringing him home. I wish I could say things have gotten better but it just seems he's never going to outgrow this. The new vet put him on cephalexin and prednisone again. Last time he was on them he was still a super young puppy and I had a terrible time with him on it because he would literally pee in his sleep due to the steroid. My question is, he is now 11 months old and I'm seriously contemplating not giving him the prednisone because of the crazy incontinence issues he will develop from them. Would the cephalexin still do its job with trying to help clear up whatever it is they are trying to treat? Or should I just suck it up and start the pills together?

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Old 08-17-2013, 01:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Could it be a food allergy? If so just treating the symptoms is not gong to solve the problem.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Could he have had that this whole time from the get-go? I've noticed that it actually gets worse when the grass in the yard is taller right before we mow it. That made me think it was maybe an environmental allergy.


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We have also changed his food four times and he has been on fish oils since he was brought home. Gets a bath weekly now because of the skin problem with a sebboric *sp* shampoo. He sheds like crazy, has a yeasty dirty dog smell and he's got the flaky skin, red scabby bumps. Seems to itch throughout the day....


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Yes the cephalexin is an antibiotic that does NOT need prednisone to work. The prednisone only helps to decrease the itching (and therefore potentially help skin heal easier).

However, my vet cautions using prednisone with the antibiotics because the steroid can make it more difficult for the antibiotics to work? I believe that is what she said atleast.

If prednisone is making him pee all over the place, which is a common symptom, then skip it. The antibiotic is what is needed.
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Have you taken him to a dermatologist??? As long as he's had these issues that's where he needs to go. A regular vet doesn't seem to know much more than antibiotics and steroids which actually have a rebound effect.
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I will check the area for a dermatologist. I didn't even know there were specialist doggy doctors I will just start him on the antibiotic then. I don't have fond memories of the roid... And the vets just seem to keep going in circles no matter who I take him to.


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It can be frustrating when your dog has a unresponsive condition that your general practice vet doesn't seem to be able to get a handle on. Like others have said here, I think a dermatologist should be your next step.

In the meantime, you should be questioning the vet who is giving you these meds and sharing your concerns with him--I'm not sure this is something which can be diagnosed and treated online, to the point of us telling you whether to go against your vet's advice or not.
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Roxy is seen by a vet dermatologist and gets shots on a weekly basis for environmental allergies. This is the time of year when flair ups occur. She has been on her shots for 6 months. She currently has a mild to moderate flair up however this was expected as the shots may take up to one year with flair ups still occuring decreasing in severity. According to the vet derm prednisone in Dobies is a two sided coin and one needs to watch how long they are on the meds as the meds do cause muscle atrophy With Roxy's latest flair up the vet gave her Temaril-P, an antihistamine with prednisone. This takes the edge off (licking-chewing) and blocks the cells. You need to be on the
Temaril-P for a period of time with a set amount of pills given this is to make sure all of the cells have been blocked off. If you don't block off all the cells then it was just a waste of time.
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Most don't know what to do to get to the bottom of allergies. They just treat the symptoms which is only short term relief.

The prednisone is for itching and inflammation.

The information below is only to give your dog some relief till you can get into a dermatologist.

You can also add 1/2 tin drained packed in water sardines with morning meal...start gradual to prevent digestive upsets. Sardines are wonderful for a dog and are loaded with nutrients for heart and skin health. They will help the skin health from the inside out and reduce itching.

You can treat the itching with medicated baths. Don't use an oatmeal shampoo in case he happens to be allergic to oatmeal. I use a generic of , shucks can't think of the name of it. Go to the Dollar General Store and get the Recall Maximum Dandruff shampoo which contains 1% selenium sulfide or the generic T Gel which is coal tar base. You can also use Zymox shampoo and folliw their directiond. For the ones I tecommended you will have to leave the suds on for at least seven minutes and DO NOT allow him to lick the suds/shampoo. You will have to bath twice a week or every three days perhaps for the rest of the summer if he has environmental allergies.

Now I will give a website to help with the rest.

Zymox info:

http://www.doggedblog.com/doggedblog...s-in-dogs.html

How Often Should You Bathe Your Pet?

Allergy info:

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites...ow-and-do.aspx

This information pertains to dogs with allergies, but if you have a skin problem with infection and itching it would help.
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Preg is a not so good drug, its just a bandage for a under lying problem and will supress your dog system .. Very hard on the liver as well.
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short-term Pred shouldn't be too hard on a liver and can also be helpful. Long-term I would be giving Denamarin.

OP I'd ask you vet what the pred is specifically for and raise your questions about incontinence. Can you ask about a reduced dose of pred if it's really needed? We had our last Vizsla on it for cancer long-term and she only had 2 incidents of incontinence BUT we also had a dog door for her (and she wasn't a puppy).
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How long was the original course of cephalexin? If it was something like staph it can take six weeks or more on the antibiotic to actually clear it up. If the original course of treatment was too short, he may still be struggling with it.
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