Ddd

sstrickland · 06-17-2008, 01:23 PM

I have a 5 year old girl that has just been diagnosed with Dancing Doberman Desease. Is anyone familiar with this syndrome? Possible therapies?

Stewart
Nashville TN
615-238-4691

**voodoolizard** · 06-17-2008, 05:12 PM

Dancing Doberman Disease (DDD) can mimic many other conditions such as lumbosacral disc disease, cervical vertebral instability (CVI), inflammation of the spinal cord, spinal arthritis, cauda equina syndrome, some nervous system maladies, and spinal tumors. It is likely the condition is more prevalent than previously recognized because there is a general lack of awareness on the part of veterinarians and breeders, and therefore, the condition is often overlooked as a diagnosis.

The Textbook of Veterinary Internal Medicine, Ettinger and Feldman, 4th Edition, contains a description of this disease if you want to look it up at your library, or ask your veterinarian about it. A simple description would be that of a progressive disease, usually presenting with a holding up of one rear leg while standing. The age at onset can be anywhere from 4 months to 10 years. Both males and females are affected. Most affected dogs have normal findings on other tests, including blood counts, biochemistry, x-ray, and thyroid function. Over several months the condition progresses with a wasting of rear leg muscles, and a more constant shifting of weight on the rear legs to resemble a dog "dancing", hence the name "Dancing Doberman Disease". Frequently these dogs will knuckle over with their rear paws and ultimately prefer to sit or lie down rather than stand. The dogs show no sign of pain and are perfectly capable of running in the yard, chasing a ball or a squirrel, etc. Generally they live out their lives comfortably as pets although the condition is progressive, incurable, and at present, untreatable. It must be considered a genetic disease because it has never been reported in any mammal, let alone any dog breed other than the Doberman Pinscher.

No, this is not an April fools article. Dancing Doberman Disease is a truly recognized disease unique to the Doberman pincher. Affected dogs appear to “dance” back and forth on their hind legs, but a ballet audition is not their intent.

Typically this disease affects both male and female dobies between the ages of six months to seven years. The condition starts with the dog holding only one back leg up in the air, but usually within three to six months, the dog alternates each leg in the air; therefore portraying the appearance of dancing. The progression of the disease is typically slow, but muscle tone breakdown and neurological sensitivities involving the hind legs can result. Sometimes these dogs walk somewhat unbalanced on the hind legs and cross their feet or knuckle over on their toes. Typically, these dogs do not experience pain.

To get an absolute diagnosis of this disease, other neurologic diseases affecting the spinal cord such as narrowing of the spinal canal (wobblers syndrome), tumor of the spine and intervertebral disc disease must be ruled out. Veterinary neurologists can confirm Dancing Doberman disease by running an electromyography test (EMG). This electrode type test can measure abnormal nerve impulses that stimulate the muscles to contract.

Unfortunately, there is not a treatment for this disease, but most dogs can still have excellent quality of life and remain happy pets with no pain. Owners with a special sense of humor might find their dobie a new career on David Letterman or the Rockets

develops between 6 months and 7 years of age; tendency to flex and straighten 1 and then both hind limbs while standing; gait remains normal while walking; may eventually develop weakness in hind legs, and be reluctant to stand; very slowly progressive - affected dogs remain acceptable pets for many years

DANCING DOBERMAN DISEASE (DDD) can mimic many other conditions such as lumbosacral disc disease, cervical vertebral instability (CVI), inflammation of the spinal cord, spinal arthritis, cauda equina syndrome, some nervous system maladies, and spinal tumors. It is likely the condition is more prevalent than previously recognized because there is a general lack of awareness on the part of veterinarians and breeders, and therefore, the condition is often overlooked as a diagnosis.

The Textbook of Veterinary Internal Medicine, Ettinger and Feldman, 4th Edition, contains a description of this disease if you want to look it up at your library, or ask your veterinarian about it. A simple description would be that of a progressive disease, usually presenting with a holding up of one rear leg while standing. The age at onset can be anywhere from 4 months to 10 years. Both males and females are affected. Most affected dogs have normal findings on other tests, including blood counts, biochemistry, x-ray, and thyroid function. Over several months the condition progresses with a wasting of rear leg muscles, and a more constant shifting of weight on the rear legs to resemble a dog "dancing", hence the name "Dancing Doberman Disease". Frequently these dogs will knuckle over with their rear paws and ultimately prefer to sit or lie down rather than stand. The dogs show no sign of pain and are perfectly capable of running in the yard, chasing a ball or a squirrel, etc. Generally they live out their lives comfortably as pets although the condition is progressive, incurable, and at present, untreatable. It must be considered a genetic disease because it has never been reported in any mammal, let alone any dog breed other than the Doberman Pinscher.

Just because most breeders and many veterinarians are unaware of DDD doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Although it may not be widespread at this time, it represents a diagnostic conundrum because its symptoms are easily confused with other diseases stated above. Recognition that there is a condition known as DDD is important so that a proper diagnosis can be made. Accurate diagnosis of any disease is the key to treatment and prognosis and can only be made if there is an awareness of all possibilities.

Dr. Jan Steiss, in a grant funded by Auburn University College of Veterinary Medicine and the Doberman Pinscher Foundation of America, has completed the most recent research on DDD. She is preparing a manuscript for veterinary publication and, when available, information will be updated on the DPFA web site. www.dpfa.org [1] Dr. Jan Steiss is no longer with Auburn University.

MORE ABOUT DANCING DOBERMAN DISEASE:

www.dpfa.org [1]

**voodoolizard** · 06-17-2008, 05:13 PM

sorry couldnt be more help.. just stuf i found on the net....x

**Doberdog** · 06-17-2008, 07:04 PM

voodoolizard, I think you posted great information on DDD. It is a starting point for sstrickland.

**Debbie** · 06-17-2008, 11:29 PM

That reminds me of Wobblers, I had a great dane with Wobblers. With the dancing of the back legs and knuckling over of the back feet.

sstrickland · 06-18-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by voodoolizard

Dancing Doberman Disease (DDD) can mimic many other conditions such as lumbosacral disc disease, cervical vertebral instability (CVI), inflammation of the spinal cord, spinal arthritis, cauda equina syndrome, some nervous system maladies, and spinal tumors. It is likely the condition is more prevalent than previously recognized because there is a general lack of awareness on the part of veterinarians and breeders, and therefore, the condition is often overlooked as a diagnosis.

The Textbook of Veterinary Internal Medicine, Ettinger and Feldman, 4th Edition, contains a description of this disease if you want to look it up at your library, or ask your veterinarian about it. A simple description would be that of a progressive disease, usually presenting with a holding up of one rear leg while standing. The age at onset can be anywhere from 4 months to 10 years. Both males and females are affected. Most affected dogs have normal findings on other tests, including blood counts, biochemistry, x-ray, and thyroid function. Over several months the condition progresses with a wasting of rear leg muscles, and a more constant shifting of weight on the rear legs to resemble a dog "dancing", hence the name "Dancing Doberman Disease". Frequently these dogs will knuckle over with their rear paws and ultimately prefer to sit or lie down rather than stand. The dogs show no sign of pain and are perfectly capable of running in the yard, chasing a ball or a squirrel, etc. Generally they live out their lives comfortably as pets although the condition is progressive, incurable, and at present, untreatable. It must be considered a genetic disease because it has never been reported in any mammal, let alone any dog breed other than the Doberman Pinscher.

No, this is not an April fools article. Dancing Doberman Disease is a truly recognized disease unique to the Doberman pincher. Affected dogs appear to “dance” back and forth on their hind legs, but a ballet audition is not their intent.

Typically this disease affects both male and female dobies between the ages of six months to seven years. The condition starts with the dog holding only one back leg up in the air, but usually within three to six months, the dog alternates each leg in the air; therefore portraying the appearance of dancing. The progression of the disease is typically slow, but muscle tone breakdown and neurological sensitivities involving the hind legs can result. Sometimes these dogs walk somewhat unbalanced on the hind legs and cross their feet or knuckle over on their toes. Typically, these dogs do not experience pain.

To get an absolute diagnosis of this disease, other neurologic diseases affecting the spinal cord such as narrowing of the spinal canal (wobblers syndrome), tumor of the spine and intervertebral disc disease must be ruled out. Veterinary neurologists can confirm Dancing Doberman disease by running an electromyography test (EMG). This electrode type test can measure abnormal nerve impulses that stimulate the muscles to contract.

Unfortunately, there is not a treatment for this disease, but most dogs can still have excellent quality of life and remain happy pets with no pain. Owners with a special sense of humor might find their dobie a new career on David Letterman or the Rockets

develops between 6 months and 7 years of age; tendency to flex and straighten 1 and then both hind limbs while standing; gait remains normal while walking; may eventually develop weakness in hind legs, and be reluctant to stand; very slowly progressive - affected dogs remain acceptable pets for many years

DANCING DOBERMAN DISEASE (DDD) can mimic many other conditions such as lumbosacral disc disease, cervical vertebral instability (CVI), inflammation of the spinal cord, spinal arthritis, cauda equina syndrome, some nervous system maladies, and spinal tumors. It is likely the condition is more prevalent than previously recognized because there is a general lack of awareness on the part of veterinarians and breeders, and therefore, the condition is often overlooked as a diagnosis.

The Textbook of Veterinary Internal Medicine, Ettinger and Feldman, 4th Edition, contains a description of this disease if you want to look it up at your library, or ask your veterinarian about it. A simple description would be that of a progressive disease, usually presenting with a holding up of one rear leg while standing. The age at onset can be anywhere from 4 months to 10 years. Both males and females are affected. Most affected dogs have normal findings on other tests, including blood counts, biochemistry, x-ray, and thyroid function. Over several months the condition progresses with a wasting of rear leg muscles, and a more constant shifting of weight on the rear legs to resemble a dog "dancing", hence the name "Dancing Doberman Disease". Frequently these dogs will knuckle over with their rear paws and ultimately prefer to sit or lie down rather than stand. The dogs show no sign of pain and are perfectly capable of running in the yard, chasing a ball or a squirrel, etc. Generally they live out their lives comfortably as pets although the condition is progressive, incurable, and at present, untreatable. It must be considered a genetic disease because it has never been reported in any mammal, let alone any dog breed other than the Doberman Pinscher.

Just because most breeders and many veterinarians are unaware of DDD doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Although it may not be widespread at this time, it represents a diagnostic conundrum because its symptoms are easily confused with other diseases stated above. Recognition that there is a condition known as DDD is important so that a proper diagnosis can be made. Accurate diagnosis of any disease is the key to treatment and prognosis and can only be made if there is an awareness of all possibilities.

Dr. Jan Steiss, in a grant funded by Auburn University College of Veterinary Medicine and the Doberman Pinscher Foundation of America, has completed the most recent research on DDD. She is preparing a manuscript for veterinary publication and, when available, information will be updated on the DPFA web site. www.dpfa.org [1] Dr. Jan Steiss is no longer with Auburn University.

MORE ABOUT DANCING DOBERMAN DISEASE:

www.dpfa.org [1]

Thanks a lot for your popst. It helped to answer a few more questions. I appreciate it.

Stewart

MaryAndDobes · 06-18-2008, 02:28 PM

We had a young red male (9 months) in rescue a while ago and I immediately recognized the symptoms of Dancing Doberman Disease when they were relayed to me. Confirmed by the Ontario Veterinary College.

As far as I can remember, there was nothing to be done. He was adopted by someone who had ties to OVC where he could be monitored by the neurologist. Unfortunately, and unrelatedly, he died of osteosarcoma when he was just 2.

Incidently, he was purchased originally from a pet store.

KristenC · 06-18-2008, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaryAndDobes

We had a young red male (9 months) in rescue a while ago and I immediately recognized the symptoms of Dancing Doberman Disease when they were relayed to me. Confirmed by the Ontario Veterinary College.

As far as I can remember, there was nothing to be done. He was adopted by someone who had ties to OVC where he could be monitored by the neurologist. Unfortunately, and unrelatedly, he died of osteosarcoma when he was just 2.

Incidently, he was purchased originally from a pet store.

We have seen a few DDD dogs come through rescue. From my understanding, it is a fairly slow progressing disease and as Mary mentioned, not much can be done. I know one of the dogs died of DCM (unrelated) and the other was recently diagnosed with cancer (also unrelated).