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06-04-2008, 10:20 PM
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| Heartgard vs Interceptor I was wondering which of these two products you prefer and why. Heartgard Plus Chewables covers: - Heartworm disease (D. immitis)
- Roundworms (T. canis, T. leonina)
- Hookworms (A. caninum, U. stenocephala, A. braziliense)
Interceptor Chewables covers: - Heartworm disease (D. immitis)
- Roundworms (T. canis, T. leonina)
- Hookworms (A. caninum)
- Whipworms (T. vulpis)
Basically, I am trying to decide if it's better to cover for more genus species of hookworms and no whipworms (Heartgard), or to have less hookworm coverage but covers whipworms (Interceptor).
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06-04-2008, 10:28 PM
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| | Alpha | I use Sentinel
Brand Name
Sentinel (Novartis)
Generic Name
Milbemycin Oxime (mil’-beh-my’-sin ox’-eem) and Lufenuron (lew-fen’-your-on)
What is Sentinel: Sentinel is given once a month for the prevention of heartworm disease in dogs. Sentinel also protects against hookworm, roundworm and whipworm. Sentinel is also used to control fleas by preventing the development of flea eggs. Sentinel does not kill adult fleas. The American Heartworm Society recommends that heartworm prevention is used year round. Sentinel may also be used for purposes other than those listed in this guide
heres the makers site Sentinel® Flavor Tabs® for Dogs Product Information - Novartis Animal Health US, Inc.
I also worm every 3 months with safeguard (panacur)
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06-04-2008, 10:36 PM
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| Thanks, Dobemom2b. I already use Frontline for fleas/ticks so I don't need to use a product that doubles up on flea preventative, which is why I'm only interested in Heartgard and Interceptor at this point 
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06-04-2008, 10:55 PM
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| I have used Interceptor since the beginning of time time time time
And never had a problem with ANY worms. I have heard of dogs contracting HW on Heartguard, and there was an issue with herding breeds at some point? Maybe just collies? I dunno, enough to scare me away.
I will not use sentinal. The less chemicals the better. Also, have never had a flea problem so don't need it.
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06-04-2008, 10:58 PM
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| Thanks, D&H. Good to know Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobes&Hounds there was an issue with herding breeds at some point? Maybe just collies? | Some dogs of the collie breed are sensitive to ivermectin (which is the active ingredient in Heartgard) at certain doses, which is why it's tricky to treat them if they are infected with heartworm disease.
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06-04-2008, 10:59 PM
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| | Alpha | I have used advantage and advantix in the past if we traveled or went camping but I don't normally use flea stuff because its not an issue.
Any fleas picked up walking or out around town the sentinal has prevented becoming an issue.
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06-05-2008, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Burns I was wondering which of these two products you prefer and why. Heartgard Plus Chewables covers: - Heartworm disease (D. immitis)
- Roundworms (T. canis, T. leonina)
- Hookworms (A. caninum, U. stenocephala, A. braziliense)
Interceptor Chewables covers: - Heartworm disease (D. immitis)
- Roundworms (T. canis, T. leonina)
- Hookworms (A. caninum)
- Whipworms (T. vulpis)
Basically, I am trying to decide if it's better to cover for more genus species of hookworms and no whipworms (Heartgard), or to have less hookworm coverage but covers whipworms (Interceptor). | thanks burns for this thread! I am currently not using any of these preventives as I am a little leery of adding chemicals in my dobe.. and afraid of any reaction. but I am still on the fence on this and will consider heartgard or interceptor (tropics here, lots of mozzies) so would love to know the results of this thread. |
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06-05-2008, 01:03 AM
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| I prefer Interceptor and it is what I use. The reason? Well, because I wont use Heartguard/Frontline products again, and their customer service is RUDE RUDE RUDE. (I had an incident with my couch and frontline and while I take partial responsibility, it was the way they treated me when I called them about it) |
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06-05-2008, 05:56 AM
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| I don't know either of them.
What should I use??
Whats in the UK? This is a new thread on the UK subject.
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06-05-2008, 06:59 AM
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| I use Interceptor, it affords more protection than Heartguard. I also use Frontline as I find that Advantage doesn't seem to be as effective. We go to shows so we need flea protection. |
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06-05-2008, 07:09 AM
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| I used Interceptor for years in Virginia, now use Sentinel here in Georgia. Sentinel has the same HW ingredient as Interceptor (Milbemycin Oxime) plus the flea preventative (Lufenuron). I do not use Frontline or any topicals (Rex allergic).
The one time I did not use Interceptor in VA my Chessie came down with whip worms. It took a lot to get rid of them! My dogs are out and about a lot so I don't want to take the chance of them picking up whips. |
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06-05-2008, 07:29 AM
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| | Alpha | I would reccomend Interceptor due to the fact that whip worms have become so prevalent and they live for so long in soil that if you bring your dog anywhere there are other dogs they have a good chance at picking them up. I don't believe in giving my dogs alot of chemicals and shy away from flea prevantatives with pesticides in them but i do thin it is neccasary to give a heart worm prevantative. |
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06-05-2008, 09:18 AM
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| Thank guys!!  It looks like more people prefer Interceptor so far.
I made the poll public so you can see who voted for what. Dobes&Hounds, you're vote is coming in under "Heartgard" but in your post you said you use Interceptor?
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06-05-2008, 10:07 AM
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| I've used Heartgard and Iverhart which is generic for Heartgard. |
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06-05-2008, 06:34 PM
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| I use Heart Guard because after giving Intercepter to my older dog, I had to rush him to the emergency clinic for treatment. It is easier to keep all three on the same thing. I also use frontline.
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06-05-2008, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Doberdog I use Heart Guard because after giving Intercepter to my older dog, I had to rush him to the emergency clinic for treatment. | Can you be more specific of the circumstances of the emergency? Was it an allergic reaction? Had you used the product on him in the past or was this the first time? What was the vet's diagnosis?
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06-06-2008, 12:13 AM
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| We use Heart Guard Plus because it is what our vet has recommended. I haven't researched alternatives and I'm also interested in seeing what the consensus is here. We have a year’s supply of Heart Guard Plus on hand for each of our dogs and cat so I don't imagine we will be making any changes any time soon.
I do know someone who buys ivermectin in bulk (for cattle use) and uses it for her dozen or so hounds. It doesn't have the advantage of the Plus ingredient (sorry, I'm being lazy and not looking the name of it up) so I decided I wasn't going that route. We also don't have the expense of maintaining a pack the size of what she does. Quote:
Originally Posted by BackInBlack I prefer Interceptor and it is what I use. The reason? Well, because I wont use Heartguard/Frontline products again, and their customer service is RUDE RUDE RUDE. (I had an incident with my couch and frontline and while I take partial responsibility, it was the way they treated me when I called them about it) | I'm so sorry this didn't have a better outcome. They really should have worked with you and there is absolutely no excuse for rude behavior. Sounds like their staff needs some training in phone etiquette and their management could benefit in learning about building customer relationships.
My personal and work experience with pharma has been very different. I'm appalled at the way Merial treated you and their lack of responsiveness. I remember the couch incident well and what I was hoping for was for you to be treated the way my wife was by Proctor & Gamble after she spilled some Comet on our vinyl bathroom floor. She had accidently knocked over a container and didn't think anything of it so she didn't clean it up right away. The Comet ate into the vinyl and left blue stains. She called P&G to let them know there was no warning on the container. She really didn't expect anything more then an opportunity to vent. The customer service rep apologized and requested we send them a picture of the floor and an estimate for having it replaced. She was shocked and yes, P&G did pay to have the floor redone without us having to ask them to do it.
I guess I should have sent you a PM to find out what happened after you called them. I was hoping no news was good news.
Sorry for getting off topic.
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06-06-2008, 08:59 AM
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| | Big Dog | I use Heart Guard Plus because, well, it's just cheaper! I used to give the dogs Interceptor, but I looked for alternatives with the price of everything going up. So, price is all it comes down to really. And, I'm happy with the protection it offers. Never had any problems with it! |
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Originally Posted by ps4570 I'm so sorry this didn't have a better outcome. They really should have worked with you and there is absolutely no excuse for rude behavior. Sounds like their staff needs some training in phone etiquette and their management could benefit in learning about building customer relationships.
My personal and work experience with pharma has been very different. I'm appalled at the way Merial treated you and their lack of responsiveness. I remember the couch incident well and what I was hoping for was for you to be treated the way my wife was by Proctor & Gamble after she spilled some Comet on our vinyl bathroom floor. She had accidently knocked over a container and didn't think anything of it so she didn't clean it up right away. The Comet ate into the vinyl and left blue stains. She called P&G to let them know there was no warning on the container. She really didn't expect anything more then an opportunity to vent. The customer service rep apologized and requested we send them a picture of the floor and an estimate for having it replaced. She was shocked and yes, P&G did pay to have the floor redone without us having to ask them to do it.
I guess I should have sent you a PM to find out what happened after you called them. I was hoping no news was good news.
Sorry for getting off topic. | Thanks Phil. I am really big about customer service. I do not deal with companies with bad customer service, I just feel like why would I keep spending my money and support a company who treats their customers like crap. I really wish it would have had a different outcome also. Honestly, if they would have not even paid for it, but validated me being upset and treating me a little better (like you said......your wife just wanted to vent) I think I would have felt better about the whole situation, but they did FAR from that. So I wont use their heatworm/flea prevention anymore, and I used to use both heartguard plus and frontline plus. I only have 4 dogs, but that is 4 dogs less business they will get from me.
I am a pretty "loyal customer" so had they treated me well......(like P&G did you guys) they would have made a customer life. Bad on them.... |
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06-06-2008, 10:32 AM
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| we use interceptor & front line, at our vet's rec; Thank goodness we have no fleas/ticks/wormes, etc. |
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| I use Heartguard Plus and have done so for years with good results. I also use Advantix for fleas. I use both products year round as I am in Florida, the flea/mosquito capital of the world |
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Originally Posted by Burns Thank guys!!  It looks like more people prefer Interceptor so far.
I made the poll public so you can see who voted for what. Dobes&Hounds, you're vote is coming in under "Heartgard" but in your post you said you use Interceptor? | Must be a glitch, as I did vote for Interceptor. I have used it for over 12 years with no problems.
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06-06-2008, 11:29 AM
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| | Alpha | I've used Heartgard Plus and Frontline Plus for years with no problems. I don't use Frontline during the winter months. We tried Advantix for awhile and it didn't work as well for us as the Frontline. |
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06-06-2008, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ps4570 I do know someone who buys ivermectin in bulk (for cattle use) and uses it for her dozen or so hounds. It doesn't have the advantage of the Plus ingredient (sorry, I'm being lazy and not looking the name of it up) so I decided I wasn't going that route. | The "plus" ingredient is pyrantel, which is the dewormer portion.
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