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Old 12-26-2012, 04:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi!! My partner and I a in the beginning stages of looking for the perfect doberman to add to our family. We have 2 rescued pugs, our male is 10, and our female is 6. Now that we have moved from NYC out to OR we clearly have the time & space to add a new fur baby. However we need some help finding a good breeder in the area. Our pugs are both rescues and we believe in it very much, but for our first Dobe we are thinking we should go with a breeder.

What advice or direction can you all offer for our search, any breeders you would recommend? Ay we should stay away from??

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There is quite a few really good breeders in our area. Are you just looking for a dog you can do obedience, rally, agility, conformation, bite sports, or anything else?

Personally, I think Foxfire, Sherluck, and Starlaine all have beautiful dogs both personality wise and aesthetically. All three are "show" breeders but their dogs are successful in other sports as well.

There is a dog show in Portland coming up which should have about 50 dobermans as well as many dobe breeders there. It's the 16-20 of January so if you're interested let me know and I can get you more info.
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Also forgot to add (and too late to edit) but stay away Judy Mueller.

Make sure whichever breeder you decide on, you ask to see proof of health testing as well as titles. If you Google OFA then type in part of the dogs name you should see some of the health testing, and you can sometimes look on dobequest for titles.
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I would add Emerald to that list (biased as I am - lol). Cathy shows, handles and breeds and gets a ROM on her breeding stock requiring a WAC + a working title that counts toward a ROM.

ETA: And I would also suggest Wyndem, also in WA.
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Thank you!! We will be in-town the 16th - 20th and would love more information on the dog show.
I would say we are looking for a Dobe that can and will go everywhere with us. Camping, hiking, running, dog parks, walking to dinner...... We want an addition to our family that will be great around our nieces and nephews as well as be protective if we were to ever need it on an early morning run. We would like to work with him (we want a large black male) as a therapy dog. We do not have a background in showing a dog so that has no interest for us, but anything we can do with him as a team to wither compete or give back to our community we are interested in.

We have looked into rescue but our concern is with this being our first Dobe, would we be setting ourselves up for much greater success with going with a breeder?

Do you know anything about Winterridge or Sunnybrook as breeders?

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Thank you!! We will be in-town the 16th - 20th and would love more information on the dog show.
I would say we are looking for a Dobe that can and will go everywhere with us. Camping, hiking, running, dog parks, walking to dinner...... We want an addition to our family that will be great around our nieces and nephews as well as be protective if we were to ever need it on an early morning run. We would like to work with him (we want a large black male) as a therapy dog. We do not have a background in showing a dog so that has no interest for us, but anything we can do with him as a team to wither compete or give back to our community we are interested in.

We have looked into rescue but our concern is with this being our first Dobe, would we be setting ourselves up for much greater success with going with a breeder?

Do you know anything about Winterridge or Sunnybrook as breeders?

Thanks!!
Hi there, you have been given some really good suggestions above by experienced Doberman people that live in the PNW. One other breeder name that came to mind is Wingate. I know a DT person who has a lovely Wingate bitch with a really nice temperament. I don't know of either of the breeders you referenced above, but took a look at their website.

Winter Ridge - did not impress me. No mention whatsoever of any health testing or titling in any venue. My impression is they have a few dogs and churn out litters by breeding their own dogs together. For "prices starting at $2800" at Winter Ridge (per their website) I would think you could get a much better quality pup from any of the breeders referenced above and I am guessing at a lesser price. Also, I notice they got one of their bitches from Britton Farms. I am pretty sure there have been concerns raised about Britton Farms on DT before.

Sunnybrook - Sorry, I was equally unimpressed. Their statement that "We have Beautiful Extra Large Female Doberman Puppies For Sale Now" is a major red flag. Dobermans are a medium size breed and anyone trying to market "extra large" is not a breeder I would personally be considering. Also, $3500 for pups?? Again, I expect you could get a very high quality pup for closer to $1800-$2000... And their "click to add to cart" for their puppies. made me cringe.

Also, as far as running, just wanted to make sure you are aware that you need to wait quite a while until growth plates close before you can run with a dog. I think most recommend at least 18 months, potentially 24. If you want a dog you can take running with soon, you may want to consider a rescue that is a little older. There are some lovely rescues out there and if you go to a Doberman specific rescue they will typically have done some temperament testing and evaluated the dog so you have some sense of what the dog might be like.

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Thank you!!!!

We know we will not be able to run with a pup straight away, and he will need plenty of time to grow before we do, and plenty of time to teach loose leash walking as well as other manners before we take off on a run.

We just completed an application with Starlaine, and will start looking up the others lsited above.
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Hey! My wife and I are in the same boat as you guys. We live in washington and we are also just starting out our hunt for a pup. Any info for spring pups would be awesome! Im also interested in the dog show info!
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Hey! My wife and I are in the same boat as you guys. We live in washington and we are also just starting out our hunt for a pup. Any info for spring pups would be awesome! Im also interested in the dog show info!
There are 3 shows in Puyallup - all at the Western WA Fairgrounds, Puyallup
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Then the Rose City 1-16-13 thru 1-20-13 at the Portland Expo Center

The Mt Hood Dobe Specialty is on the 16th at the Expo Center and the other days are all breed.
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I would add Emerald to that list (biased as I am - lol). Cathy shows, handles and breeds and gets a ROM on her breeding stock requiring a WAC + a working title that counts toward a ROM.

ETA: And I would also suggest Wyndem, also in WA.
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We have a 9 month old female from Northstar Dobermans in Washington and are very happy with her. I have been taking lots of fun training classes with her and she goes almost everywhere with my husband and I! She is good with kids, other dogs and enjoys meeting new people when we are out and about. Good luck in your search!


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My family are picking up our new puppy on Saturday from Showtime k9.. has anyone had any experience with them? They out of spokane

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Well, I'd certainly like to see more health testing. The only testing listed for the sire is vWD (carrier). The dam has only has vWD (carrier), and shows hips and thyroid as "Pending". Do you know if they are testing each and every puppy for vWD, since they are from a carrier x carrier breeding? If they don't do cardio testing, that's huge red flag, IMO.

ETA: They also breed Labradors, evidently. They all look like pet quality dogs, with very few titled (show or hunting) dogs in their lines. They also have incomplete health testing, most listed as "Pending" or "Preliminary". The dogs are on top of horses. I'm wondering how socialized the pups really are.
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That was put up on the site after I signed the contract and put the deposit down, I do however have a health guarantee in the contract and I plan to take him to the vet as soon as I get him to make sure everything is good. Do you know how long the test should normally take to get back?
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The parents are the dogs that need to be tested. An estimated 50% of Dobermans will die from Dilated Cardiomyopathy. Breeding dogs need to have yearly holter exams (a 24 hour EKG), and echocardiograms. The breed is also plagued with hypothyroidism. Again, that is an annual test that needs to be done. Hips and elbows can be evaluated at two years of age or older. This thread shows some of the official OFA certificates you want to see. Registration and health clearance documents

If it was me, I'd see about getting my deposit back, and looking for a different breeder.
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:09 AM   #20 (permalink)
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A good question to ask the breeder would be why this particular male was the perfect match for that particular female.

Interesting pedigree. A whoooole lot of SA in there. Are they perfect conformationally for each other? Do their pedigrees match (I don't know anything about show pedigrees)? Why no health testing except for vWD and why are they breeding two carriers together?
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