Riots back yard breeder... - Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums

Breeding and Breeders Know a good Breeder? Are you a Breeder? Please post here and let us know

DobermanTalk.com is the premier Doberman Dog Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-25-2012, 10:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
Alpha
 
wgsdluver's Avatar
 
Posts: 437
Dogs Name: Dewey, Rebel, Rhoco (RIP), Riot
Titles: Rhoco-CGC, TDI
Dogs Age: 9yrs, 2yrs, 5 years old (RIP), 1yr
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit wgsdluver's Gallery
Thanks: 1,119
Thanked 292 Times in 147 Posts
wgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud of
Click here to find out how wgsdluver became a supporter
Riots back yard breeder...

Edgewood Dobermans.
I knew better but am stubborn and make mistakes a little more often.
Riot was one of them... While her parents seemed friendly she seemed very fearful at a early age. It may be genes, it may be my fault from lack of socialization or a bit of both. Riot is very fear reactive to people and dogs which started young, 16weeks old. Her breeder doesn't health test. She thought that if the puppies made it through cropping and docking they diddnt have vWD. I corrected her after I had riot DNA tested for vWD and she is affected. Although they were kind people I would caution others from purchasing their dogs. I did not see in the house but a few dogs were outside in kennels that had access to a barn.
I was in denial for a while...guess its live and learn!
Buy from a responsible breeder!



Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App
__________________
wgsdluver is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Join Date: Jul 2011
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to wgsdluver For This Useful Post:
Brandy&Melanie (01-09-2013), Burns (12-26-2012), Coco Loco (12-26-2012), Darkevs (12-26-2012), RedFawnRising (12-26-2012), Sinister (12-26-2012), VZ-Doberman (12-25-2012)
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-25-2012, 11:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
Alpha
 
LindaH's Avatar
 
Posts: 14,139
Dogs Name: Sunburg's Indian River Park "Parker"
Dogs Age: Born May 24, 2007
Gallery Pics: 25
Visit LindaH's Gallery
Thanks: 21,029
Thanked 19,902 Times in 8,345 Posts
Images: 25
LindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond repute
How old is she now? Have you tried to work with a positive reinforcement trainer? It might not be to late to help her. You should buy "The Power of Positive Dog Training" by Pat Miller.
__________________
All dogs deserve a good home

Subscribe to this newsletter first:
http://www.truthaboutpetfood.com/

How to select a good dog food:
http://www.boxerworld.com/forums/vie...y-dog-food.htm

Dog food information:
http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/best-dog-foods/
http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=main

Diet additives and Raw diet information
http://www.dogaware.com/articles/index.html
LindaH is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Join Date: Sep 2006
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to LindaH For This Useful Post:
Adara (12-26-2012), Sinister (12-26-2012)
Old 12-26-2012, 10:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
MeadowCat's Avatar
 
Posts: 13,462
Location: MN
Dogs Name: Shanoa; Richter (Glengate's Mountain Fortress CA WAC); RIP Simon
Titles: CGC, Daddy's herzhund; CA, WAC
Dogs Age: d.o.b 11/28/2008; d.o.b. 7/13/2012
Gallery Pics: 1
Visit MeadowCat's Gallery
Thanks: 34,453
Thanked 36,631 Times in 10,419 Posts
Images: 1
MeadowCat has a reputation beyond reputeMeadowCat has a reputation beyond reputeMeadowCat has a reputation beyond reputeMeadowCat has a reputation beyond reputeMeadowCat has a reputation beyond reputeMeadowCat has a reputation beyond reputeMeadowCat has a reputation beyond reputeMeadowCat has a reputation beyond reputeMeadowCat has a reputation beyond reputeMeadowCat has a reputation beyond reputeMeadowCat has a reputation beyond repute
Click here to find out how MeadowCat became a supporter
It's not too late to help your girl become the best dog she can be. I highly recommend getting in touch with a board certified veterinary behaviorist (find them here: Find a Board Certified Veterinary Behaviorist ACVB). While she may never be "normal" she can certainly improve and be happier.
__________________

Richter & Shanoa
“What you do makes a difference,
and you have to decide what kind of difference you want to make.”
― Jane Goodall
MeadowCat is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Join Date: Apr 2009
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to MeadowCat For This Useful Post:
Adara (12-26-2012), RedFawnRising (12-26-2012)
Old 12-26-2012, 02:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
Wears Sandwitch Board
 
RedFawnRising's Avatar
 
Posts: 21,150
Dogs Name: Whisper; George; Slick Wilhemina, Nashua
Titles: George-Working Service Dog
Dogs Age: 5 yr, 4 yr, 3 yr, 1yr
Gallery Pics: 3
Visit RedFawnRising's Gallery
Thanks: 67,176
Thanked 72,009 Times in 17,047 Posts
Images: 3
RedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond repute
Click here to find out how RedFawnRising became a supporter
Grisha Stewart's book on BAT could be very helpful to you, and I'd highly recommend getting Leslie McDevitt's Control Unleashed, both the DVDs and the book, and learning the "Look at That!" game.

If you have access to private lessons, and then a group class of CU, even better.

I hope you can help Riot to manage her fear reactions--that is miserable and dangerous for everyone involved. Best wishes, sincerely.
__________________

"Better to write for yourself and have no public, than to write for the public and have no self."
―Cyril Connolly
RedFawnRising is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Join Date: Jun 2008
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to RedFawnRising For This Useful Post:
MeadowCat (12-26-2012), Sam1491 (12-26-2012)
Old 12-26-2012, 06:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
Alpha
 
wgsdluver's Avatar
 
Posts: 437
Dogs Name: Dewey, Rebel, Rhoco (RIP), Riot
Titles: Rhoco-CGC, TDI
Dogs Age: 9yrs, 2yrs, 5 years old (RIP), 1yr
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit wgsdluver's Gallery
Thanks: 1,119
Thanked 292 Times in 147 Posts
wgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud of
Click here to find out how wgsdluver became a supporter
Thanks guys I'll look at the links but I don't think there are any training classes close (I work 30-40hrs a week) and she definitely needs structure and consistency... My moms not exactly on board with training she just spoils them.. But thanks, been fighting this problem for a long time and she's only becoming more frightened/aggressive to strange people. She's 15 months old Linda.


Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App
__________________
wgsdluver is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Join Date: Jul 2011
Old 12-26-2012, 06:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
Alpha
 
wgsdluver's Avatar
 
Posts: 437
Dogs Name: Dewey, Rebel, Rhoco (RIP), Riot
Titles: Rhoco-CGC, TDI
Dogs Age: 9yrs, 2yrs, 5 years old (RIP), 1yr
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit wgsdluver's Gallery
Thanks: 1,119
Thanked 292 Times in 147 Posts
wgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud of
Click here to find out how wgsdluver became a supporter
I have tried positive training when she was younger with the clicker it never made a lick of difference she gets very freaked by anyone she doesn't know petting her. She also doesn't like kids:/


Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App
__________________
wgsdluver is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Join Date: Jul 2011
Old 12-26-2012, 07:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
Wears Sandwitch Board
 
RedFawnRising's Avatar
 
Posts: 21,150
Dogs Name: Whisper; George; Slick Wilhemina, Nashua
Titles: George-Working Service Dog
Dogs Age: 5 yr, 4 yr, 3 yr, 1yr
Gallery Pics: 3
Visit RedFawnRising's Gallery
Thanks: 67,176
Thanked 72,009 Times in 17,047 Posts
Images: 3
RedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond reputeRedFawnRising has a reputation beyond repute
Click here to find out how RedFawnRising became a supporter
Quote:
Originally Posted by wgsdluver View Post
I have tried positive training when she was younger with the clicker it never made a lick of difference she gets very freaked by anyone she doesn't know petting her. She also doesn't like kids:/


Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App
^^^That is where the Control Unleashed stuff will help you.

You really need to have someone on the ground, to help you with observation and timing, though. It's vital to be impeccable with your timing and with judging threshold, during those exercises--very hard to do on your own.
__________________

"Better to write for yourself and have no public, than to write for the public and have no self."
―Cyril Connolly
RedFawnRising is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Join Date: Jun 2008
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to RedFawnRising For This Useful Post:
LindaH (12-29-2012), MeadowCat (12-26-2012), River (12-29-2012)
Old 12-26-2012, 07:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
Living la Vida Loca!
 
Coco Loco's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,495
Location: Brooklin, Ontario
Dogs Name: Coco
Titles: Queen of the Castle
Dogs Age: 5 years old
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit Coco Loco's Gallery
Thanks: 9,359
Thanked 2,529 Times in 1,147 Posts
Coco Loco has a reputation beyond reputeCoco Loco has a reputation beyond reputeCoco Loco has a reputation beyond reputeCoco Loco has a reputation beyond reputeCoco Loco has a reputation beyond reputeCoco Loco has a reputation beyond reputeCoco Loco has a reputation beyond reputeCoco Loco has a reputation beyond reputeCoco Loco has a reputation beyond reputeCoco Loco has a reputation beyond reputeCoco Loco has a reputation beyond repute
Welcome to the world of enlightenment! Now that you know better you can do better next time. I speak from experience.

Good luck with Riot. I hope things work out for you guys.
__________________
Coco Loco is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Join Date: Jun 2011
Old 12-27-2012, 05:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
Alpha
 
LindaH's Avatar
 
Posts: 14,139
Dogs Name: Sunburg's Indian River Park "Parker"
Dogs Age: Born May 24, 2007
Gallery Pics: 25
Visit LindaH's Gallery
Thanks: 21,029
Thanked 19,902 Times in 8,345 Posts
Images: 25
LindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond reputeLindaH has a reputation beyond repute
Your or your Moms reaction to her when she does this is vital, too. If anyone is trying to comfort her when she is reacting, that will make her worse, because the comforting is a reward to her for reacting.
__________________
All dogs deserve a good home

Subscribe to this newsletter first:
http://www.truthaboutpetfood.com/

How to select a good dog food:
http://www.boxerworld.com/forums/vie...y-dog-food.htm

Dog food information:
http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/best-dog-foods/
http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=main

Diet additives and Raw diet information
http://www.dogaware.com/articles/index.html
LindaH is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Join Date: Sep 2006
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to LindaH For This Useful Post:
RedFawnRising (12-27-2012), River (12-29-2012)
Old 12-28-2012, 10:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
Alpha
 
wgsdluver's Avatar
 
Posts: 437
Dogs Name: Dewey, Rebel, Rhoco (RIP), Riot
Titles: Rhoco-CGC, TDI
Dogs Age: 9yrs, 2yrs, 5 years old (RIP), 1yr
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit wgsdluver's Gallery
Thanks: 1,119
Thanked 292 Times in 147 Posts
wgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud ofwgsdluver has much to be proud of
Click here to find out how wgsdluver became a supporter
I know that Linda, I've never comforted her when she has been this way. I tried to do different things.. I think I might of tried to coax her and had treats but it was a no go she's afraid of peoria touching her..
I made a mistake and I will try and do better. After a couple of these kind of experiences you learn I guess..


Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App
__________________
wgsdluver is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Join Date: Jul 2011
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:53 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0 Beta 2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2 ©2009, Crawlability, Inc.
@2005 - 2008 DobermanTalk.com
PetGuide.com
Basset.net DobermanTalk.com GoldenRetrieverForum.com OurBeagleWorld.com
BoxerForums.com DogForums.com GoPitbull.com PoodleForum.com
BulldogBreeds.com FishForums.com HavaneseForum.com SpoiledMaltese.com
CatForum.com GermanShepherds.com Labradoodle-dogs.net YorkieForum.com
Chihuahua-People.com RetrieverBreeds.com