I MUCH prefer the Euro doberman look and working ability and I got more dog for my money, AND a healthier dog to boot.
There isn't a thing wrong with having a preference for a particular look and you should of course get what appeals to you. But "AND a healthier dog to boot"? That is stated as a solid fact. Like I said, you are seriously misinformed.
what should a person expect to pay for a show quality bitch from such a line--
Your knowledge of show quality is also seriously lacking. Not only are working line (or even almost all euro show line dogs) unable to attain an American championship, but euro actual working line dogs wouldn't be able to attain a championship in their OWN country. They aren't competitive in the show ring.
I'm sorry, I should have clarified-- the dog I previously imported (Rottweiler) was healthier than the dogs I had gotten here in the US and been burned by a couple US breeders. I do not think that dogs from any particular region are healthier, per se, than others, though I do think that countries (like Germany) that require working and conformation titles/evaluations and health testing prior to breeding do, in general, produce healthier stock, percentage-wise. There are simply way too many BYB and such here in the US who pump out litter after litter with no regard to health and that simply doesn't happen in Germany (and some other european countries) to the same extent due to their stricter breeding regulations.
And how is this not insulting to American breeders? You can sit there all wide-eyed and innocent and claim otherwise, but you quite clearly implied that American breeders seriously lack in ethics and breeding practices. There are backyard breeders everywhere, in every country. This country doesn't have a corner on that. What you are interested in is a puppy from a good breeder, so why are byb's even on your radar for comparison?
she is doing lots of health testing and breeding champion and working titled dogs...more than I can say for so many American breeders.....
Sure, that's not in the least bit directly insulting.
And the American breeders wonder why so many new Dobie breeders go the way of importing dogs.....seems you have a thing or two to learn about tact. Thank God you aren't the only Doberman breeder and there are others who care to help guide and inform new owners.
Again, you can sit there all wide-eyed and innocent, but you quite clearly imply that because you get a direct, blunt answer to your uninformed insulting BS that all American breeders are tactless. No, it's just ME, and I'm not a breeder TYVM.
Where did I post any stereotypes at all??
I've talked to Elena more...and am going to post something in the health section as I just have a few questions in regards to getting the healthiest pup I can. For instance, father is vwd carrier, mother negative. Mother is DCM postive hetero, father is DCM negative. Are my chances of getting a healthy pup good with each parent being a carrier of something?
The DCM testing you are referring to actually doesn't have much to do at all with whether a dog will develop DCM or not. There are plenty of dogs that are negative for that gene that die of DCM and plenty of dogs that are positive for it that don't have DCM and remain perfectly healthy. The test isn't a test of the animals heart health.
This is good to hear, actually. I do want a working dog, but not a very hard or sharp dog. I will not be doing upper level protection training, but do want to be very competitive in obedience and sieger shows.
You are looking at euro show line dogs, not euro working dogs. The things you say you want completely contradict each other. To be perfectly honest I don't put a lot of stock at all in working titles that euro show line dogs have. Why? Because I know a prolific GSD breeder that breeds euro line dogs here that she touts as being exactly what you are looking for. They have euro style show titles and working titles. But to get those working titles she has to send each and every one of her breeding stock dogs to Germany to GET them titled. Why? Because she knows people there that can slap a title on absolutely ANYTHING in record time. I have yet to see one of her dogs that has a solid temperament, they are what most people would refer to as complete fruitcakes. They are scared of their own shadow. But she can send them there and they always title. The REASON euro show dogs are titled is because they HAVE to be, it really doesn't matter if they are really any GOOD at it. I'm not saying that all of their show dogs are crap working dogs, titled or not. I'm sure some of them are fine, but to blindly put faith in a title without having any knowledge at all of how that dog actually works is foolish.