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Old 11-15-2012, 11:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyway to see health records?

My girl isn't registered yet but she does have papers. Just havent sent them in yet. She's Aca papered. I know, not good but is there any online way of seeing health problems from her family lines?


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Old 11-16-2012, 12:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If the sire and dam have OFA clearances you can look them up on the OFA website. There is also Dobequest. You need to have their registered names, though. However, considering you only have BYB/puppymill registration papers, I wouldn't hold my breath on them having had any health testing done.
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If you got her from a breeder, then they should have given you info on health tests of the parents. You can always ask.

What is ACA?
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If the sire and dam have OFA clearances you can look them up on the OFA website. There is also Dobequest. You need to have their registered names, though. However, considering you only have BYB/puppymill registration papers, I wouldn't hold my breath on them having had any health testing done.
I'm sorry but dobequest is hideously incomplete and should not be completely relied on in its current state.

There are plenty of well known dogs on there who are dead from dcm etc and not even a date of death listed.
Also TONS of big name breeder's dogs not even listed period. It would be interesting to see the true number of dogs from some breeders.


OP seeing as how there are so many "reputable" breeders who don't post test results like Rosemary said I wouldn't hold my breath on a miller/byb breeder but the databases are there and better than absolutely nothing for future reference.
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Okay guys. Thanks! I'll look and see but like it was said, probably won't find anything since she is a byb pup. Doubt any testing was ever done. Just thought Id take a chance


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If you got her from a breeder, then they should have given you info on health tests of the parents. You can always ask.

What is ACA?
Stands for American Canine Association.

It's a complete and total bogus, bullsh!t "registry."

If you thought CKC papers (Continental Kennel Club) papers were worthless, they look like gold, compared to ACA.
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There is no need to be hateful on my thread. You could have said it nicer than that! Members like you is one of the main reasons I will not be using this site anymore.


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Where did that come from?? RFR was just being helpful!
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Where did that come from?? RFR was just being helpful!
It came from that poster's own issues, clearly.

Ah, well, to paraphrase an old saying: No good, informational, educational deed goes unpunished.
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Honestly it's probably not worth registering her and I doubt you're going to get anywhere finding anything about the health in her pedigree. Registering her would just equate to lining the pockets of that "bogus" registry as well. The AKC offers a PAL program that would enable you to enroll her in certain AKC events if that's something you're interested in.
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Wow. Nobody was being hateful. I was also going to ask what ACA was, as I had never heard of it. I checked ACA out and see it is yet another shady registry used by BYB's. That is NOT a hateful statement, but rather a factual one.

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Wow. Nobody was being hateful. I was also going to ask what ACA was, as I had never heard of it. I checked ACA out and see it is yet another shady registry used by BYB's. That is NOT a hateful statement, but rather a factual one.

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APRI (American Pet Registry, Inc.) is another puppymill registry. I see more APRI dogs around here than I do ACA. Mostly, though, you see Cont. KC.
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Well it sounded hateful to me. But it's whatever. I will still be registering her. She will be spayed, I will more
Than likely enter her into some
Akc programs that enforce spaying. All I want is to learn more about the breed. I had no idea what really a byb was before I got willow and came here. Never knew how bad It really was and what the difference in byb and r.b. but I do now, it was a mistake getting her from a byb. I feel like mostly everyone on dt is rude to people who have pups from bybs.


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Well it sounded hateful to me. But it's whatever. I will still be registering her. She will be spayed, I will more
Than likely enter her into some
Akc programs that enforce spaying. All I want is to learn more about the breed. I had no idea what really a byb was before I got willow and came here. Never knew how bad It really was and what the difference in byb and r.b. but I do now, it was a mistake getting her from a byb. I feel like mostly everyone on dt is rude to people who have pups from bybs.


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You'd be wrong. there are probably MORE members who started in dobermans with BYB dog's
than otherwise. It CAN be a valuable learning experience, if you let it, and maybe lead to wonderful things in the future... Rescue, sports, even showing. That first dog sets the framework, no matter where they came from. Just learn and do better next time.
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I feel like mostly everyone on dt is rude to people who have pups from bybs.
This actually isn't true at all. We are not fans of people that support BYB's. We perfectly accept people that have BYB dogs that are aware of the horrible people BYB's are, and that acknowledge that they made a mistake, and are willing to learn from it. We love all Dobies!

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but I do now, it was a mistake getting her from a byb.
Well, there you go! You already have the pup and you accepted the mistake, so now all that is left is to keep reading and see what else you can learn on here! We definitely don't "hate" you just because you have a BYB dog!

EDIT: Monicaei beat me to it!
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really depends on if the breeder did any health testing that would be listed on a data base like OFA.

Dobequest is entirely dependent upon a DPCA member inputing information, and you generally will not find dogs from a byb pedigree in there. I don't think it was ever meant to be a total listing of all dogs produced by a breeder. I do agree that there should be more use of dobequest and more information listed.

You could ask the breeder for copies of whatever health testing was done and ask if they have any health info from the extended pedigree.
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Well it sounded hateful to me. But it's whatever. I will still be registering her. She will be spayed, I will more
Than likely enter her into some
Akc programs that enforce spaying. All I want is to learn more about the breed. I had no idea what really a byb was before I got willow and came here. Never knew how bad It really was and what the difference in byb and r.b. but I do now, it was a mistake getting her from a byb. I feel like mostly everyone on dt is rude to people who have pups from bybs.


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The only "hateful" sounding thing on this thread was you going off about a simple factual statement that had nothing to do with you, but rather the ACA.

If you do plan on entering her in AKC events, you will need to get her a PAL number, as someone already suggested. That is an AKC program that allows animals of purebred appearance, who do not have AKC papers, to get listed with the AKC, in order to compete in AKC sanctioned events.
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