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Old 11-16-2012, 06:45 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Do you know how easy it is for a person to lie on a pedigree? I have been studying her pedigree ever since I got on here and found out about the breeder I probably won't breed her ill get her titled then spayed. Thx for the z factor I will look at that! Like I said before I am training her for French ring now french ring is kinda hard for dobermans there is a lot of jumps and they need to be small so they can be agile so really not a euro ( male) it's hard to find Americans that are bred for work and show. I'm looking into breeders now that mainly have euros my dream is to bring the working ability back to the American version. Now the club I'm in are pretty much just mals and shepherds. Yes mals have a tone of drive! But the thing I hate when ppl talk bad about dobes is that they were bred for this! How can some "herding" be better at it. And my goal is to have a dobe better than a mal! Which really hard to beat but hey I have goal and I like how y'all helped me out.


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Old 11-16-2012, 06:49 PM   #27 (permalink)
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My only thing is my family isn't made of money, and I know we couldn't just drop 1500 bucks on a dog which kinda sucks and I know breeders prices which is like that. So kinda sucks and limits me on somethings


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Old 11-16-2012, 06:55 PM   #28 (permalink)
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My only thing is my family isn't made of money, and I know we couldn't just drop 1500 bucks on a dog which kinda sucks and I know breeders prices which is like that. So kinda sucks and limits me on somethings


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That's pretty much the starting price of a pet puppy from a good breeder. Depending on the bloodlines and abilities of the parents, it could go quite a bit higher for a true show or working prospect.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:05 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I know but I have some connections with people in my club


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If you still rely on your family's money why not wait till you can afford it yourself? Why in a rush? I don't see the point of taking shortcuts like this and expect good results.


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I'm looking into breeders now that mainly have euros my dream is to bring the working ability back to the American version.
If I had a dollar every time I heard that from someone who wants to "get into breeding."
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If the breeder is someone you would not support in any way, then breeding one of their dogs is a text book definition of supporting said breeder.


I am in regular contact with a breeder who has a pretty bad reputation on here. Super Dobermans. They had a male from Kimbertal that they used to breed. Anyone in the know knows that Ktal is a kennel that should definitely not be supported or perpetuated. Since having many productive conversations with SD and becoming friends with them. They have greatly improved their breeding practices/policies, started volunteering/fostering for the Dobe rescue I'm with, AND they neutered and sold their Kimbertal male to a good home so he can't be used for breeding anymore and they will not ever be associated with the Ktal lines/kennel. That is an example of someone who cares about the welfare of the breed and has seen the light and would never support a bad breeder/kennel since they know better, no matter how good the dog is.
If I'm not mistaken (and please correct me if I'm wrong), isn't the male they are breeding now dysplastic?
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