unbelievably disgusting ad - Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums

jmradcliff · 09-18-2012, 08:27 AM

found this ad in our local paper. definition of BYB; possibly the worst i've ever seen.

Charlotte Observer: Classified Ads

Hilary · 09-18-2012, 08:42 AM

Wow, that makes my stomach hurt. Poor sweet babies, genetically doomed before they ever had a chance. POS breeder.

Rosemary · 09-18-2012, 08:44 AM

Sadly, there are worse. At least the pups and adults look healthy enough (don't know about genetics, of course), and aren't skinny or covered in sores. That said..... albinos, Bleah. Are they sure those other pups are blue? They look more like fawn to me, but it could just be my moniter.

Oh yeah, about the adults. I like a realy short crop, but I don't care for the shape of the crops on theses dogs, and would it have killed them to post the ears so they stand properly?

o0 sHaDoWoLf 0o · 09-18-2012, 10:31 AM

So sad

mmctaq · 09-18-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hilary

Poor sweet babies, genetically doomed before they ever had a chance.

Genetically doomed? Are they going to grow a third eyeball or are their brains going to get too large for their skulls? The albinos will be sensitive to sunlight and the blues are statistically likely to lose some portion of their coats (although the most astonishingly beautiful dilute coat I have ever seen happens to cover a poorly bred dog). Aside from that, they're just puppies... how they will fare in life will depend on who purchases them and luck of the draw. Saying that they are "doomed" seems more than a little premature, to me...

ddvv · 09-18-2012, 12:29 PM

Gives me shivers....

RedFawnRising · 09-18-2012, 01:22 PM

The mods won't want a live link to a puppy sales ad, OP.

Might want to PM one of them and ask them to edit for you.

omgtain · 09-18-2012, 01:44 PM

I don't really know much about White Dobes, is it kind of like a double merle? Aren't most puppies born with blue eyes that eventually turn into another color, or does the white gene effect the eyes?

On another note.. Look at those poor parents. Nails are over grown, they all have e-collars on and those ears..

monicaei · 09-18-2012, 01:48 PM

White dobes are actually albinos. They have the same issues that other albino animals have, photosensitivity to varying degrees and a much higher risk of melanoma.

Dobies 71 · 09-18-2012, 01:57 PM

Actually, the worst ad I ever saw was about a week ago.

Stupid me was looking around at ads and what's going on. Whereupon I come to an ad that says to click to view the parents.

The viewing of the parents was a video of the parents breeding and in a tie. And, then at the end of that condenced video was the wording, "Now taking deposits on puppies."

This was for pit bulls. And, it wasn't meant as a porno flick. It was meant as proof that a breeding had occured and a makeshift way to get deposits.

So nobody in the BYB world knows of ultra sound?

Anyway, that's the way it goes out there.

I've also noticed that the whites have changed the name to "Pinks." So since there is so much information about the whites having problems, they just renamed them to "pinks."

All you have to do is go around and look. It makes everybody in dogs disquested. But really there is not much we can do about it.

nerosmom · 09-18-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by omgtain

I don't really know much about White Dobes, is it kind of like a double merle? Aren't most puppies born with blue eyes that eventually turn into another color, or does the white gene effect the eyes?

On another note.. Look at those poor parents. Nails are over grown, they all have e-collars on and those ears..

I think they're actually invisible fencing collars but not sure....bad ear crops and they didn't follow up on posting the ears.

Lucius_veras · 09-18-2012, 05:04 PM

Here's a good one:
"We have 1 red and 3 black haired male puppies. Their tails and dew claws have been clipped. The puppies are 9 weeks old. We gave them their first series of shots. Our female is an AKC and our male is a shelter rescue. The puppies are energetic, alert and beautiful. Both parents are very healthy and haven't had any health issues. Their excellent watch dogs."

They bred their "rescue"?

Also saw another add: Black males $300, black females $350, Blue male $550.

Sad.

And another selling puppies for $950 or $2000 if you want "breeding rights". "Champion lines" of course... "Kimbertal gladiators" in the lines! YAY.

Every byb ad makes me sick.

Lucius_veras · 09-18-2012, 05:14 PM

More:
"$1,500 Red and Rust, Chocolate and Rust Doberman puppies, 3 boys and 2 girls Born July 30, 2012 Sire Dna certified, are dogs are part of are family, and puppies are raised in our home, they are very well socialized with children and other people, a deposit of 500 will hold your puppy until they are ready to go to their new home, they will be ready to go the last week in sept. the pups will have tale dock, due claw, up to date on shots, kennel cough and worming. they will come with ear crop. they also come with akc 5- generation pedigree on both parents. these are top doberman puppies, many many champions in their bloodlines."

Chocolate and rust huh... tale dock? lol DNA "certified" um k... 'many many ch in their bloodlines = a few ch about 4 generations back... clearly TOP DOBERMAN PUPPIES

Another:
"AWESOME oversized Doberman male puppy.
He is going to be a BIG boy.
Dad is 31" at the back and 110 pounds.
Mom is also big for AKC standards, 27" and 75 pounds.
This is an impressive puppy that will make someone
a stunning pet. He had a big blocky head with massive bone structure.
He is being raised in my home, Both parents on site."

We all know bigger is better when it comes to Dobes! "Big blocky head with massive bone structure." Are we talking about a Dobe or a Rott? "Both parents on site" Of course they are... what a selling point.

monicaei · 09-18-2012, 05:21 PM

Breeding a rescue wins the YOU SUCK award

Lucius_veras · 09-18-2012, 05:25 PM

Last one... I have to stop, i'm just getting depressed!

"They come with a 100% health guarantee and FULL AKC papers with breeding rights. These puppies go fast so please call Joseph today to reserve your pic. The price comes with all current shots, tails docked and dew claws removed. All of our dogs when reach adult hood will be minimum 30inches tall and weight 100+ pounds."

YAY, breeding rights for all! $1,800 and not even cropped, parents aren't health tested (but her can guarantee health 100%, no titles... and that last line? WTH? 30" 100+lbs is bad enough for a male, and he's trying to promise the females will be bigger than that... are they half Dane?! OMG I have to have one!

monicaei · 09-18-2012, 05:29 PM

Someone should inform them that a shelter rescue without papers cannot be AKC reg. If shelter dog has papers, I want to know the breeder of that dog... Is there a way to find out? D they have a pedigree listed?

Serahfina · 09-18-2012, 05:41 PM

makes me sad

VZ-Doberman · 09-18-2012, 05:41 PM

Some fool will buy them.

Lucius_veras · 09-18-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by monicaei

Someone should inform them that a shelter rescue without papers cannot be AKC reg. If shelter dog has papers, I want to know the breeder of that dog... Is there a way to find out? D they have a pedigree listed?

They don't... but I could email them and ask

Lucius_veras · 09-18-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by monicaei

Someone should inform them that a shelter rescue without papers cannot be AKC reg. If shelter dog has papers, I want to know the breeder of that dog... Is there a way to find out? D they have a pedigree listed?

Just re-read it... they never claim that the puppies or father are AKC, only the dam.

Rosemary · 09-18-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucius_veras

More:
"$1,500 Red and Rust, Chocolate and Rust Doberman puppies, 3 boys and 2 girls Born July 30, 2012 Sire Dna certified, are dogs are part of are family, and puppies are raised in our home, they are very well socialized with children and other people, a deposit of 500 will hold your puppy until they are ready to go to their new home, they will be ready to go the last week in sept. the pups will have tale dock, due claw, up to date on shots, kennel cough and worming. they will come with ear crop. they also come with akc 5- generation pedigree on both parents. these are top doberman puppies, many many champions in their bloodlines."

Sire DNA certified means that he has either sired more than three litters in a year, or has sired more than seven litters in his lifetime. It is the AKC's Frequently Used Sire program. It applies to all stud dogs that meet the requirements, but BYBs use it as a selling point, as if their dog is somehow "better" because it's been DNA profiled.

Lucius_veras · 09-18-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosemary

Sire DNA certified means that he has either sired more than three litters in a year, or has sired more than seven litters in his lifetime. It is the AKC's Frequently Used Sire program. It applies to all stud dogs that meet the requirements, but BYBs use it as a selling point, as if their dog is somehow "better" because it's been DNA profiled.

DNA Profiled though right... not "Certified"? Certified makes it sound like a health thing... like "this dog is 100% clear of any health issues through his DNA"

Rosemary · 09-18-2012, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucius_veras

DNA Profiled though right... not "Certified"? Certified makes it sound like a health thing... like "this dog is 100% clear of any health issues through his DNA"

Hey, they advertise the dogs as being "AKC Certified". They can't tell the difference between "verified" "registered" and "certified", and tend to use them interchangably.

I've seen several of them boasting about their AKC inspections results, as if that makes them better breeders. One Bulldog greeder down here even has a copy of the inspection up on their website, to "prove" that they are good breeders. Umm, all breeders are subject to inspection by the AKC.

Lucius_veras · 09-18-2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosemary

Hey, they advertise the dogs as being "AKC Certified". They can't tell the difference between "verified" "registered" and "certified", and tend to use them interchangably.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I figured they meant profiled/registered... but I'd never seen it referred to as "DNA Certified", that's what I was making fun of as far as the ad.

Lucius_veras · 09-18-2012, 06:26 PM

Just pointing out their use of "certified" like his DNA has been proven superior or something lol... Which is how I'm sure a lot of poor people are going to interpret it.