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GOOD breeder in NY and surrounding area?

I am looking for a GOOD breeder in NY, CT, PA, NJ area. Anyone have any suggestions? Looking for a healthy, good tempered pet, not a show dog. Thanks!
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Looking for breeder - ny, ct, pa, nj

looking for a good breeder in the ny, ct, pa, nj area. Not looking to show, but looking for a healthy, good tempered pup. Any suggestions?
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Cara Dobermans in NY. May be awhile, I beleive he has a waiting list and you will have to wait for the right dog that matches your needs comes along. This is the same pretty much for any reputable breeder. Good luck in your search!!

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Although I ended up getting Ivan through the rescue and not a dog from CARA, I have nothing but positive things to say about them. They were always very responsive and we have remained on good terms despite me withdrawing my application.


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Op, I know you said you are looking for a "healthy, good tempered pet, not a show dog" but do you have a more specific idea of what you want to do with your dog? For example, are you interested in obedience, agility, working sports such as Schutzhund, therapy dog, etc? What level of drive are you looking for? That will impact the type of breeder you will likely want to go with.

Cara breeds some very nice dogs, but my understanding is that in general, Ray breeds pretty high drive working dogs, although there will likely be some range of drive in the pups in the litter.

There are actually a lot of excellent breeders in the tri-state area. If you can give a better sense of what you are looking for it will help to provide you with suggestions.

There are also some excellent threads on DT outlining what to look for when considering breeders, and what constitutes an ethical breeder. I'll try to find and copy the link in this thread.

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Here is the thread I was thinking of about evaulating whether a breeder is reputable.

Reputable breeders - for new folks

The DPCA Breeder referral list is also a good starting place, however, you really need to evaluate all breeders carefully. Just because they are on the DPCA breeder referral list doesn't automatically mean they do all recommended practices like full health testing, titling, etc.

DPCA | The Doberman | Breeder Referral

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Fitzmar is in PA.

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I am looking for a house pet who will be an active member of my active and possibly growing family. We camp, travel, play sports...all kinds of things. I was also considering having the dog trained as a service dog for me because I suffer from a breathing disorder, and I have heard dogs can be trained not only to alert when an attack is coming, but call the person down enough to possibly avoid it becoming a full blown issue.

My mother is an animal behavioral specialist, and I do have quite a bit of experience with Dobermans, growing up in a home full of "troubled" dogs. But there were 2 dogs that forever changed me, and I have been madly in love with the breed ever since. Now that I am settling into my own home and life, I know I want a Doberman in it.

I need a dog that I will be able to take anywhere, do anything with. I have a cat, and my young nieces and nephews are constantly at my house. They will be terribly spoiled and loved, and a member of the family
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Good luck with your research and search for just the right dog!

If you get the chance, please check out a few Rescue dogs/pups as well. Thank you.

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I edited your thread title so hopefully you will get some more responses. I'd highly recommend reading this thread to start: **Read This First: Helpful Breeder/Breeding Information**

Here are some other threads on finding breeders in the areas you listed:

Any good breeders in New Jersey?
reputable breeder in New Jersey area
breeder recommendations in or near So. Jersey
http://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding...-new-york.html
Breeder In New York?


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looking for a good breeder in the ny, ct, pa, nj area. Not looking to show, but looking for a healthy, good tempered pup. Any suggestions?

Reputable Breeder Checklist: Here
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I am new to using a forum and was not totally sure how to go about it, sorry about that.

And i have raised MANY MANY MANY different puppies, kittens, and exotic cats, but never a doberman under a year... my mother did rescues, the animals that were considered agressive, and she turned them into big teddy bears.
This will be my first dobe puppy on my own though... I plan on flying my puppy whisperer mother up for the first couple weeks though lol

I am looking for later this year, summer or later.
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I agree with Harvest Moon. I had a Cara dog for many years.....and he was an excellent working dog. Your description sounds like you want an active family house dog. A Cara dog might be a higher drive dog then you would want. I don't have any suggestions in NY. But I can comment, that the dog I have now which is a Bruda/Cambria dog....is significantly different in drive level. My new little one is still very confident, easily trainable, and has a great temperament, but does not have crazy drive like my Strider. My pup is very easy to live with in and out of the house....
Just a thought when choosing a new pup. Drive level would be the biggest thing on my list to consider matching to your lifestyle. Getting that decision wrong when choosing a breeder and the kind of pup from the litter will set you up for a lifetime of adjustments and frustrations that won't be ideal. I don't mean a high drive dog can't be an amazing family and service dog. They actually can be easily trained, you will just have to on top of things/situations more, spend more time training limits and boundaries and socializing, and thinking a few steps ahead of him/her as you'll get to know what triggers them and make sure you know how to keep them from NOT entering red zones/drive zones where they don't 'think' as easily.

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Thank you, dapple! We have been doing research for almost 2 years now, thought we had a puppy, but it didnt work out. When i went to look the facility, it was not organized or clean and was just disgusting.
I know everything I am lookign for and want, and it has been taking a while to find. I thought that asking people who actually have worked with breeders and have their dogs was the best way to go about it.

I want a dog that is willing to hop in the car and go hiking with me... but I also want that same dog to be able to lay on the couch with my 3 nieces who are 2, 5, and 10. This dog might be trained as a service dog for me, though I have not totally decided.

We had a dog name Bruno when I was little, and he was almost 135 lbs, we saved him from an abusive home. My 5 siblings and I were alllllll over this dog, and nothing bothered him. But one time, my mother's car broke down in a bad part of town, and Bru was in the car with her... a man tried to attack her and get in the car... Bruno tried so hard to protect her, he cracked the windshield, and the man was gone before my mom could blink.
That is what I want.
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There are plenty of great breeders that would have a puppy to fit your family just do your research! I will also say, don't write off a breeder that shows just because you don't want a show dog...there are many people on this forum with dogs from show lines that are therapy dogs or just great family pets.

On the other hand, since you have rescue experience, would you rescue a dog or even a puppy? There is a member of this forum from NJ that has two rescues, one is retired but was in the Top 20 in obedience. The other is just starting her training. A rescue puppy could be exactly what you are looking for.

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It took quite a bit of convincing to my boyfriend that a dog is worth over $1000, maybe even over $2000... now as a doctor, he insists we use a breeder so we can be sure that health testing was done. I am also a firm believer in meeting the parents... a friend of mind rescued a gsd puppy, and the puppy was quite agressive. We found out that he was an orphan bc his mother was put down for a severe attack.
I think once im older and more experienced, I will get a rescue... But would like to start with a puppy and a breeder I can work with and get support from.
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It took quite a bit of convincing to my boyfriend that a dog is worth over $1000, maybe even over $2000... now as a doctor, he insists we use a breeder so we can be sure that health testing was done. I am also a firm believer in meeting the parents... a friend of mind rescued a gsd puppy, and the puppy was quite agressive. We found out that he was an orphan bc his mother was put down for a severe attack.
I think once im older and more experienced, I will get a rescue... But would like to start with a puppy and a breeder I can work with and get support from.
I don't think there is anything wrong with that. I would love to rescue/foster one day when I have the space, but I will probably always have a dog from a reputable breeder that does the proper health testing to do sports with.

Since you're looking for a family pet/possible therapy dog I think you will find the $1500 range is what most reputable breeders will charge. Considering the cost of all the health testing, health care, titles, and endless breeder support, that price really isn't much.

Reputable breeders in your area have already been mentioned in this thread, I would start there. This forum is also great for any other questions you have so stick around!

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We are so excited... we do not even know when this puppy is going to come into our lives, but I am already obsessed with him. Books, videos, magazines, forums... I want to be ready lol. Basically ever spare moment I get is spent on youtube looking at cute videos of them lol. He will be one loved puppy, that is for sure.
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It took quite a bit of convincing to my boyfriend that a dog is worth over $1000, maybe even over $2000... now as a doctor, he insists we use a breeder so we can be sure that health testing was done. I am also a firm believer in meeting the parents...
I'm glad to hear you are making progress to convince your boyfriend about the realistic cost of buying a well bred puppy from an ethical/reputable breeder. I think you should definitely be able to get a "pet quality" dog from a reputable breeder for $1500-2000 in the tri state area. Although having researched breeders and buying a puppy a few years ago in that area, I suspect you will be more toward the 2k range.

There is a good thread on DT about what it truly costs to breed and raise a litter - that might be a good one to show your boyfriend too!

You mentioned wanting to meet both parents... In terms of meeting both parents, it's not highly likely that a breeder will have both the bitch and stud onsite. In fact, reputable breeders work very, very hard to find the right stud dog that will complement their bitch (in terms of pedigrees, health, conformation, temperament, etc), and often times that stud will be from a different breeder. Not to say there are not reputable breeders who breed their own stud to one of their bitches for valild reasons, but it's something to keep an eye out for.

Also, I totally agree with the poster above (sorry forgot who it was) but litters will have a range of puppies - some show quality and others pet quality, ie if it's a breeder who focuses on breeding dogs for breed ring/conformation. Don't rule out show line breeders just because you don't want a "show dog". They will also have varying levels of drive in litter.

A good breeder will do their best to understand what their puppy buyers are seeking, their lifestyle, etc and will match the right puppy to that prospective buyer. Puppy buyers do not typically get to pick which puppy they want. The breeder knows the puppies in the litter and will have the best ability match puppies so there is the highest chance of success in their new home, factoring in of course the preferences (breed, color, temperament, lifestyle, etc) of the puppy buyer. Just wanted to mention that because a lot of times people think they are going to get to pic which puppy they will get...

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Well, this is not the thread I was thinking of, but it wil give you some idea...

Cost of having a litter of puppies....

Where is Sam&Mac's Mom?? She is always the master when searching for old threads!!

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