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Old 03-21-2011, 02:43 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Why wouldn't you want to make it public? If you want to show them off why not display them to be the best they can be?

And I still don't see any FACTS that support your Euro's are better...


My dogs have no titles either, and both are awesome temperaments, but I wouldn't breed my boy just because of that...
Because I don't need to BRAG about anything to have people want to buy my puppies. When people meet my dogs that speaks for itself. And your right you shouldent just breed your dogs because they are nice, my dogs have come from lines of excellent dobermans. And they have produced again consistantally good quality puppies with both excellent health and temperament so I must be doing something right. Again please make sure you are speaking facts about what someone is doing before you start spreading roumers about them not having quality dogs because that's slander. Like I said just google Euro vs American dobermans and you can look up all the info for yourself just as I did in the past. Thank you so much for your concern about my breeding program though.
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Because I have actually heard from two different vets those tests aren't even completely accurate. If I am going to tell families that my dogs are clear of something I want to make sure I am telling them something I know for sure. There breeders out there that do nothing to make sure they are breeding quality dogs so I really don't think I'm someone who you need to worry about. But thank you all the same.

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An EKG and an Ultrasound of the heart are not accurate to diagnose Heart Disease? Give me a break it's the same tests we use for humans FFS.

I guess your Vet should let the American Heart Association know when they come up with a better test lol.
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wow.... talk about calling the kettle black .................
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An EKG and an Ultrasound of the heart are not accurate to diagnose Heart Disease? Give me a break it's the same tests we use for humans FFS.

I guess your Vet should let the American Heart Association know when they come up with a better test lol.
I am just saying what I have been told. Again by two different vets, so I had a second opinion.And I know people that have done that test and then had issues with their dogs anyway after having clear results.
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I wish that all breeders, no matter how 'healthy' and pretty their dogs are and awards that their dogs have or have not won..........would cut down on the amount of puppies they are producing every year.

Is there any chance your friend would be interested in checking out a few rescue Doberman as well?

I wish them luck in their search for just the right Doberman to bring into their hearts and home!!
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I am just saying what I have been told. Again by two different vets, so I had a second opinion.And I know people that have done that test and then had issues with their dogs anyway after having clear results.
It's true that it only tells you what's going on at that point in time but it's all we have, and as a breeder you should be doing it. If you catch a problem then you can quit breeding that animal. You are just flying blind by doing nothing at all.
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To summarize your "breeding" program/philosophy based on the answers you provided in this thread:

1. You don't title your dogs in any venue. You don't need to brag. Titles are mostly political, that makes you sick.

2. You produce only pet dogs and feel European dobermans are just better working dogs and have less health issues in general.

3. Health testing: None of your dogs are affected with VwD, all have normal thyroids and hips and elbows all good. You don't cardio test, to date, because 2 vets told you they weren't accurate.


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I wish that all breeders, no matter how 'healthy' and pretty their dogs are and awards that their dogs have or have not won..........would cut down on the amount of puppies they are producing every year.

Is there any chance your friend would be interested in checking out a few rescue Doberman as well?

I wish them luck in their search for just the right Doberman to bring into their hearts and home!!
Hey, DLS-

This is an old thread resurrected by the breeder on here. I think the OP was looking last summer actually....
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Because I have actually heard from two different vets those tests aren't even completely accurate. If I am going to tell families that my dogs are clear of something I want to make sure I am telling them something I know for sure. There breeders out there that do nothing to make sure they are breeding quality dogs so I really don't think I'm someone who you need to worry about. But thank you all the same.

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Do you normally compare yourself to the bottom of the barrel?

Personally, sounds like you mean well, but in all honestly don't have the foggiest idea about the breed or the overall health of it.
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You should really do some more research about the Doberman breed before you breed anymore litters. European Dobermans are NOT healthier than American Dobermans.

Check out an article in the Journal of Veterinary Internal Medicine about the prevalence of DCM and you will notice that this is their conclusion:

The prevalence of Doberman cardiomyopathy is very high in Europe. Disease manifestation and progression are different between male and female dogs. Yearly screening for DCM by Holter examination and echocardiography is recommended, starting at 2 years of age.

I honestly believe you should subscribe to their online library if you are serious about continuing to produce puppies. You are doing a great disservice to our wonderful breed. And find some better, more Doberman knowledgeable vets to get your facts from.

ETA: I don't think either can be said to be healthier than the other. I do, however, think it is ignorant to claim that Euros are much healthier than their American counterparts without any facts to back it up.

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and please- how's about giving Anya a break from breeding. Or better yet- stop breeding her.

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I'm taking back my previous comment about having good intentions. Anyone who would breed their bitch cycle after cycle is only in it for the money.
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Meaghan your the best. I was glad to meet her and her BEAUTIFUL EUROPEAN DOBERMANS.. they were friendly, happy and healthy. I am convinced after visiting many SO CALLED BREEDERS, That Meghan is the real deal. I was also convinced by my DVM that European Dobermans are a healthier breed thats why I went to Meghan. We decided we didnt want an American or a mixed Euro american line. I feel after working as a K-9 Officer that you develop a sense of who people are around dogs. I was Impressed to say the least....of her knowledge and willingness to answer all questions without Hesitation. Before you judge anyone Visit them yourself as I did then you can state an opinion based on a personal experience like I did...Thank you Meghan you've been very helpful. Can't wait to visit you again in March. Her dogs rock...
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I had a whole list of things, but they were already said. They can look as pretty as you want, this is NOT a reputable breeder who knows little no nothing and is making themselves out to be great. The entire introduction is a load of bull.

Dobermans, European or American share the same unfortunate health issues. If anything, this breeder breeding not only OVER AND OVER again but over standard size dobermans is NOT a good thing.

It is all a gimmick to get into your wallets. No doubt they love the breed but the manner in which they are going about not properly health testing and titling their dogs is not someone I would go to or recommend in a million years...
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Please enlighten us on what other breeders you went to and visited/spoke to.

And what vet... again, very interested.
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Meaghan your the best. I was glad to meet her and her BEAUTIFUL EUROPEAN DOBERMANS.. they were friendly, happy and healthy. I am convinced after visiting many SO CALLED BREEDERS, That Meghan is the real deal. I was also convinced by my DVM that European Dobermans are a healthier breed thats why I went to Meghan. We decided we didnt want an American or a mixed Euro american line. I feel after working as a K-9 Officer that you develop a sense of who people are around dogs. I was Impressed to say the least....of her knowledge and willingness to answer all questions without Hesitation. Before you judge anyone Visit them yourself as I did then you can state an opinion based on a personal experience like I did...Thank you Meghan you've been very helpful. Can't wait to visit you again in March. Her dogs rock...
About the two things I've bolded....

First off, the health issue. Does your vet see a lot of Dobes, both Euro and NA? Or are they just repeating what the've heard? According to one study that I've read about, Euro Dobes actually have a higher incidence of Cardio.

Second point, I don't have to visit her to know I wouldn't buy a dog from her. She's posted all I need to know about her breeding program on her website.
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1. Hi Meghan/Meaghan. You'd think you at least know how to spell your own name.

2. Some people are indeed easily impressed. Most here are not, but rather expect real accomplishments, not just a lot of hot air.

3. Being a K-9 Officer does not automatically make you dog savvy. It's an underwhelming "credential," in absence of any other documentation and accomplishments.

4. Welcome (back) to DT. It's a forum that is sometimes more realistic than the real world.
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1. Hi Meghan/Meaghan. You'd think you at least know how to spell your own name.

2. Some people are indeed easily impressed. Most here are not, but rather expect real accomplishments, not just a lot of hot air.

3. Being a K-9 Officer does not automatically make you dog savvy. It's an underwhelming "credential," in absence of any other documentation and accomplishments.

4. Welcome (back) to DT. It's a forum that is sometimes more realistic than the real world.
I'll give her a pass on that one. I've forgotten how to spell my own name in the middle of writing it. I agree with everything else, though.
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After reading these post from these unknowledgeable Doberman owners I can't sit here and laugh hysterically on how they call you a bad breeder bacause you don't show or title your dogs hahahaha wow that was a good sam&macksmom I never knew that is what makes a great reputable breeder ...I mean other then the fact I purchased a European Doberman from Meghan which both his parents are champions in Europe =] get to know some one first before you start dropping negative comments about ny dobermans u think meghan if any one here buys from her???? Nooooooooo she does for the love of the dogs she don't need anyone's money in here at all! But to the gentlemen who asked is she great breeder my answer to you is call n arrange a meet with her meet her dogs and see for your self ... I can assure you in my opinion she's great I'm having an awesome time with my 7 month pup from Serbia=]
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Please enlighten us on what other breeders you went to and visited/spoke to.

And what vet... again, very interested.
We'll excuse me mr.doberman professional....please don't tell your the "GUY" who owns an American Doberman which I'm quesing you purchased from a breeder who has titles n shows.. Please enlighten me ..cause in my opinion the US and people like you are ruining this breed by making them into a. Greyhound look alike...these dogs were not breed to be elegant?? They were breed for protection by who else???? Karl friedrich Louis Doberman...which I'm so sure you and every unknowleable dobe owner knows that...you want to put your 2 cents well here's mine please enlighten me
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We'll excuse me mr.doberman professional....please don't tell your the "GUY" who owns an American Doberman which I'm quesing you purchased from a breeder who has titles n shows.. Please enlighten me ..cause in my opinion the US and people like you are ruining this breed by making them into a. Greyhound look alike...these dogs were not breed to be elegant?? They were breed for protection by who else???? Karl friedrich Louis Doberman...which I'm so sure you and every unknowleable dobe owner knows that...you want to put your 2 cents well here's mine please enlighten me
I could say a whole lot of things, but it's so obvious you don't know what you're talking about there's no use to try to explain things you can't understand.

Look at my gallery and tell me exactly where my boy looks like a greyhound? Both his parents are AKC champions. You're just repeating the same old crap euro backyard breeders want people to believe so they can sell their puppies...that's all and not a word of truth to it.

Trying something I've never tried here.

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