I'm moving this comment of Renee's over from the thread about Inaqui,because I think it brings up some things that need to be discussed on a far wider scale than just Inaqui.
Renee said:
"Triple Threat died of bloat complications at 5 (heard from reliable source). His daughter from another dam lived to be 12, no DCM. He did bred with Lemils Solitaire (died at 2, blood poisoning after pregnancy complications source dobequest) and a pup unfortunate died young at 4 from DCM (cyberdobes). Solitaire was sired by Firecracker."
I clearly remember the owner of the D Triple Threat dog posting on Cyberdobes in years past that Tripp died of vpc's caused by bloat. The only problem was Tripp died something like NINE MONTHS after he bloated!
Yes-when a dog torsions, toxins are formed that can cause vpc's, and resulting sudden death. This is one major reason why bloat is so deadly. But once those toxins are assimilated by the body, the dog's heartbeat returns to normal rhythm. This occurs within a few days-if the dog lives through the 4-5 day period after a bloat episode, they're out of the woods.
IOW-it's absolutely preposterous to make a claim that vpc's which killed a dog are due to a bloat episode so far in the past.
Renee then mentioned the young 4 year old Tripp son who died of DCM-this dog was owned by a very close friend of mine. I can tell you that one of his littermates, a bitch, jumped up in the air for a ball one day-then fell to the ground dead. No necropsy was done-the death was excused as being "ruptured spleen". Anyone buy that?????
This is the problem with "reliable sources'...sometimes they're not quite as reliable as any of us might think, or hope. It's EXTREMELY difficult to the point of being impossible at times for anyone to get credible information about a dog's death. I think the longer you're involved in this breed, and the better people know you, the better the chances you have of getting accurate information...but none of us really know for sure in the absence of a legitimate necropsy report.
Renee said:
"Triple Threat died of bloat complications at 5 (heard from reliable source). His daughter from another dam lived to be 12, no DCM. He did bred with Lemils Solitaire (died at 2, blood poisoning after pregnancy complications source dobequest) and a pup unfortunate died young at 4 from DCM (cyberdobes). Solitaire was sired by Firecracker."
I clearly remember the owner of the D Triple Threat dog posting on Cyberdobes in years past that Tripp died of vpc's caused by bloat. The only problem was Tripp died something like NINE MONTHS after he bloated!
Yes-when a dog torsions, toxins are formed that can cause vpc's, and resulting sudden death. This is one major reason why bloat is so deadly. But once those toxins are assimilated by the body, the dog's heartbeat returns to normal rhythm. This occurs within a few days-if the dog lives through the 4-5 day period after a bloat episode, they're out of the woods.
IOW-it's absolutely preposterous to make a claim that vpc's which killed a dog are due to a bloat episode so far in the past.
Renee then mentioned the young 4 year old Tripp son who died of DCM-this dog was owned by a very close friend of mine. I can tell you that one of his littermates, a bitch, jumped up in the air for a ball one day-then fell to the ground dead. No necropsy was done-the death was excused as being "ruptured spleen". Anyone buy that?????
This is the problem with "reliable sources'...sometimes they're not quite as reliable as any of us might think, or hope. It's EXTREMELY difficult to the point of being impossible at times for anyone to get credible information about a dog's death. I think the longer you're involved in this breed, and the better people know you, the better the chances you have of getting accurate information...but none of us really know for sure in the absence of a legitimate necropsy report.