buddahed

I just want a healthy European. Please help me. I was stupid enough to buy my first dobe from JKK. I did no homework at all but when they brought him to my house it was over for me, I fell in love instanly, these people are sick. Anyway I succesfully treated mange for him and now he has another skin allergy thats so bad it will cost me $260 dollars a month for his meds, which he has to take everyday forever. I will not give up on him. I'm sorry for rambling but I just took him to the vet today, I am distraught. I was going to buy a puppy from Britton Farms but read the threads on them. Is there nobody trustworthy? I just want a healthy dog. I will love Rocko forever but this is almost too much to deal with.

Rosamburg

You really need to do a lot of research before making this decision. I would suggest spending a few months reading this forum, the working Dobermann forum and Dobermann Review and asking a lot of questions. It is also very helpful if you can disclose what you are looking for besides just a "European Doberman". Do you want to work him in a protection sport? Companion only, showing,etc? This will help determine the best place to look for a dog. I do commend you on coming on here and asking questions, good luck!

buddahed

Did I write something wrong? Why will no one help me? I just want a puppy that is what he is supposed to be. Please don't judge me for bieng naive. I want him for no other reason than to love and be my best friend. I gave no intention of breeding him. I live in Massachusetts if that helps. Any help would be appreciated. I don't want to go through this again.

vivienne00

Maybe you can give us more ifnormation about your dog - name, age, photos (of course), what the skin condition is, what you have been prescribed, whether you saw an alternative vet or not, etc. You may find people on this forum with dogs that have the same issue and find out from them what they are doing. We get everybody here so someone will have a dog that has what you dog has - I am confident of that - now whether they want to talk about it is another thing - depends what it is...

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buddahed

Thank you for responding. I was interested in protection sport. Sorry if I'm not as educated as I should be. I just love the look of the Europeans. I mean I paid $3500 for Rockwell(Rocko). Which as far as I'm conserned he was more than worth it. She is the one who was robbed. I have no children but couldn't imagine loving them anymore than I do him. It's just really taxing on my soul. Not only is he my first Dobe he is my first dog period. He's only two and I've been dealing with one problem after another. This experience has been horrible. I don't know what kind of person could let someone fall in love with a dog, especially one as beautiful as a Doberman and just not give a damn.

Lexus

Awwwh, no one is ignoring you... keep in mind there are a ton of threads that are opened and updated all the time on Doberman Talk, sometimes it just takes a while to get some responses And don't apologize for being new to something! We all start somewhere! We are happy to have you here on Doberman Talk!


Don't beat yourself up for buying from JKK... the vast majority of folks make uninformed choices for their first dobes, myself included to a degree. Sometimes many past just the first. The important thing is that you are looking for a responsible breeder and a healthy dog for your second.

I'm so sorry to hear about your boy's problems I'm sorry that it sounds like JKK has been less then helpful or there for you as well.

Britton Farms--- IMO stay far far away. That would be a case of jumping out of the kettle to the fire.

There are plenty of breeders and people out there that are still trustworthy, the important thing is to not worry about rushing anything. Sometimes you have to really travel to find what you are looking for... then there is always the chance that a good breeder may not have a breeding available for a while.

I'm in Ohio, not Mass. but I'd recommend starting with the DPCA Breeder Referral. Doesn't necessarily mean every breeder in there is trustworthy and reputable, but it's a start. Check out our Educational Forum here and find the thread about finding a good Breeder, it has lots of tips!

I love the euro kids too, course they are all gorgeous IMO! We'd love to see some pics of Rocko!

Good Luck--please keep us updated!

firespydar

the keyword here is patience.. puppies aren't like merchandise once you buy a puppy and you fall in love with it you can return it no matter how bad the bloodline is, so take your time and research lots of people will chime in and help you out. apparently your not the only one having problems with jkk dobermans so take ur time and you can avoids the same mistakes.. check this thread out. jkk dobermans

buddahed

Thanks Lexus, sorry for freaking out, I just saw that I had like 50 veiws but no replys. For lack of better terminology, this plain sucks. I was just hoping someone could point me in the right direction. I am in no rush this time and will do my research to find that perfect puppy for me. It just seems like there is a sea of breeders out there. They all have their little mission statement on their homepage that says all the right things but do any of them really care?

KenyaARaineCD

Du-u-ude you gotta chill...no, seriously, take a deep breath and relax. Cultivate the art of being patient. The kind of breeder who will sell you a pup when you're in a "I want it NOW!" frame of mind is usually the kind of breeder who will sell you a junk dog.

I found my first AKC-registered Dobe by going to AKC shows and seeking out people who had the kind of Dobe I was looking for, then asking them where they got their Dobes. If you want a Dobe for SchH, RingSport, etc., then go to those events and meet people who have dogs who can do what you want your dog to do.

If you haven't received a lot of replies so far, remember that it's the weekend and the people who are into showing/trialing their dogs are out at shows competing with their dogs. It might take a couple of days before they get online and catch up with the threads.

Best wishes to you for a successful Doberquest!

Lexus

Sure, some of them DO really care. And thank goodness for them! Unfortunetely there ARE a sea of breeders out there though that just care about the almighty dollar, like you ran into with JKK.

I'm sure someone will pop on with possible breeders in your neck of the woods. In the mean time, feel free to check out the info you've been given, apply it to narrow out breeders you are interested in, then let us know what your list is down to. We'll give you our imput, then you can decide what you want to do

LilacDrgaon

Don't feel bad about getting your first dog from JKK. For many, many years (before the internet) I wanted to get a rottie from........Kimbertal.

Thank goodness I met some really smart people to explain to me just how bad an idea that was.

I am on my way to a dog show this morning to see and meet rottie and dobermans - both dogs and breeders. I want to get a puppy next year, so I am doing some pretty serious searching now. I have some pretty strict criteria as far as what I want in a breeder and I am sure that that breeder is going to want to know a TON about me.

Please, do all of your research on the genetic issues of the doberman. You need to know about vWD and what it means when a dog is affected, a carrier or free. And you need to know what a breeder means when they tell you that they are breeding a carrier to a carrier or whatever - and why.

Here is a good link to get you started.

Canine Inherited Disorders Database - Introduction

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EmilyB

Can we help with the stress you are dealing with regarding the allergies first?

My rescue dobe had horrible allergies and I went through years of expensive meds until I finally had an allergy panel done on her. She was then put on allergy shots, which cut the cost dramatically. Maybe this is something that could help you ? She was pretty much a normal dog after that.

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pcrotty2000

Sorry to hear you are having such a bad experience. I'm just alittle confused on what you're wanting at this point? Are you looking for another pup or are you looking for advice on how to deal w/ your current pupp who seems to need alot of attention right now?? Lots of knowledgeable people on here so take full advantage of that.

Casandra

I would certainly stick around and search up some threads on breeders, there is a recommeded breeder thread with a pdf file of those on the thread and what state or country they are in.

I would definitely do a search on Male on Male aggression. Just from the sounds of things, you seem to be after another male pup, which is TOTALLY unadvisable. Your only option now should be a female, and you should definitely neuter your boy if he isn't already. You may have paid mucho bucks for him, but from the experiences of others with this breeder, he wont be worth even the inkling of a thought towards potentially breeding.

I would spend some more time fixing up the health of your current boy before you consider getting another pup. It can mess up your home if you're trying to bring in a puppy with a dog who isn't feeling all that great. You made a commitment when you purchased this guy to give him the best possible life and care, and bringing in a puppy should not be an option for you until you have your current dogs in a stable and healthy environment and condition.

Nobody is ignoring you or trying to put you down, we just all have a unified love for the breed and want to make sure that every dobe gets a healthy and happy life.

Good luck with your boy, you should cherish him for what he is and love him despite his health problems.

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Navistardobe

I recommend that you contact May Jacobson of Chalmar Dobermans (Chalmar Dobermans). She's located in Massachusetts and can be a wealth of information. You also might want to contact Traci Mulligan of Rebholzer Dobermans in Vermont.(Rebholzer Dobermans )
Good luck to you.

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klatu

Colibri Dobermans has 7 week old puppies linebred Wittrock with generations of health testing behind them. It is a ZZZZZaaron daughter bred to a Talon son. Talk about a pedigree to die for. her email is dobermomlj@aol.com

Lexxsmom

I also question why you're looking for another pup right now. Rocko is still very young, and clearly a handful in the health department.

Trust me... i UNDERSTAND where you are coming from. Lexx is my first doberman and my first dog, and i DID research and I still got screwed, he's been nothing but health problems. 12 grand later, he still falls over himself, still has seizures and still pees on my floor... he's on meds for life and cannot be left alone for more than 5 hours without having an accident.

I love my dog to pieces, but I am neither financially nor EMOTIONALLY ready for another dog.

I realize that your first dog was a disappointment, but honestly... are you ready to handle two? Also.. definitely a female.

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jonsie302

Why not go straight to the source-if your willing to pay Britton Farms prices you should try Belteges, DelNasi, -just go to Doberman Review

M_Shannon

I haven't read the whole thread... but I'd just say, I think you need to slow down a bit and start some research.

I don't own a dobe, but I've been researching them for over a year now. My wife and I haven't made up our mind yet on "when" we'd like to add a dog to our family, but that hasn't stopped me from reading DT and trying to formulate an opinion on breeders, and "type" of Dobe were looking for.

Just slow down, read DT. In turn start researching questions of others and soon you'll be able to make an informed decision for yourself, rather then just looking for a quick answer from someone else...

Good Luck

Dobs4ever

I am so very sorry to hear that you are another person who was suckered in by Marsha's garble. Her web sites shouts over and over about how healthy Euro dogs are but not when you breed them every cycle - and don't care for them. You are so correct she is nuts. Just reading her web site sends off tons of red flags to me. But there certainly are healthy honest good breeders out there.

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lisalee

Sorry for all of your problems- but this is a great place for information! I am new here and have had great sucess on finding a new girl dobe myself. I too had the the whole gamut of health issues with my rescue girl who passed recently. They really sent me to a good number of quality breeders. Gatehouse, Dobereich, and DiRavallese- all in Canada but had wonderful info on their sites and will go over what you want personally. I found my girl at DiRavallese and will be picking her up 9/03/09. Since it had been a long time since I had a pup- I had always gotten them from rescues before and this time I wanted a pup from a good breeder. I hope this helps.

dobesgalore

You have to make mistakes to learn, we have all been there and may again for another reason. Like I've read on other posts, they are right. Take some deep breaths, and calm down. Now take your time and investigate. Think about what you want in your dobe, and look from there. You will find YOUR dobe. Just a little patience! Best of luck!

Jen

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