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#1 ·
Hello I'm new to this forum. I'm looking for reputable euro breeders in the US. My desire is a red euro pup. I'm not great at using this forum but I havent seen any recent post on breeders. Any opinions are appreciated.
 
#2 ·
If you're wanting a working dog I would check with he udc. They will have a registry of breeders that you can work with.

If you're looking more for euro show lines, your best bet imho is to import. While there are a few reputable breeders that are adding euro to their lines you would have to really ask around as I am unsure who in the states is actively doing so.


Put on your thick skin, there are a lot of people here who are basically anti euro.

Just FYI euros are not over sized, they shouldn't weigh in excess of 100 lbs and bigger is not better.
Do your home work. Make sure you're not supporting a shady byb doing everything wrong and for the money.
 
#16 ·
There's a lot of folks on the UDC list that I'm a big fan of. I would personally go to the UDC events that we have scattered throughout the year if you want to meet and greet people and get a feel for them and their dogs. Everyone has been very kind to me at the last handful of events I've gone to and it feels nice to have such a warm and welcome environment for the big newbie that I am.
 
#3 ·
Von Luka in Cali has a Euro and does some AM crosses. I believe Aldercrest does as well, although I don't know much about them. Marienburg tends to do a nice mix. Sant Kreal will do an import with crop and dock.

I'd be careful what you wish for in Euros when researching breeders I was surprised to see what I considered a fairly shorter life span. People think there's a huge difference in the looks but if you attend a dog show you'll see there's really not. AM show line dogs tend to CH at much younger ages so the pix that the breeders have are at younger ages.
 
#4 ·
Why on earth do you keep pushing sant Kreal? There are many other reputable breeders over seas.

What is this about 'fairly shorter life span'? Where did you come up with that?

Some of us do like the looks of a nice euro and FYI there is nothing wrong with that.
 
#8 ·
This is a reminder TO ALL that personal attacks are not allowed on this forum. You can disagree with each other without making it personal. We really don't want to go back to handing out disciplinary time outs around here. Knock it off.
 
#10 ·
Sad to say there are short lived dogs on both sides of the pond, no one has a lock on health and longevity! Not sure what you're looking for in a european dog, show lines? or working lines? I know of a planned breeding(repeat) of a 10.5 year old male with a current clear Holter to an import bitch. The pedigree is heavily German, with a splash of Polish on the dam's top side, a bit of American going back through Cara dogs on the sire's top side. Temperaments are going to be on the harder side of the spectrum overall. If you're interested feel free to PM me and I'll give you the contact info!
 
#12 ·
When most people come here and say they want a Euro bred doberman almost 100% of the time they are referring to Eastern European show bred dobermans. The reality is there are no reputable breeders breeding this type of dog here in the states. Any reputable breeder who is breeding anything "Euro" is either concentrating on working sports or some sort of hybrid/cross with American show bred dogs. Be aware that working bred dogs bear little physical resemblance to the Eastern European show bred dogs and they will likely require more commitment than your typical American (show) bred dobe.

You will have to decide if this working bred dog is what you want both in terms of appearance and temperament/energy level. Now, there are a handful of breeders who occasionally breed US/Euro crosses, one of which you may want to look up- Kansa dobermans, a member of this forum actually. Bottom line you will have a much easier time and far more to select from if you expand your search to include well bred American show/performance line dogs.
 
#21 ·
As said earlier in the thread, look at the UDC listing and go to UDC events if you want to find a decent euro breeder on this side of the pond. It can be very hard to tell the riff from the raff otherwise.

I'm not sure if anyone currently has a red male available at this point in time, but it might behoove you to talk to some folks and establish a relationship so that you can find one when they are.
 
#26 ·
The best place to start your search for a reputable breeder of European Dobermans is the United Doberman Club website. They have a breeders directory.

UDC Breeder Directory
 
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#27 ·
Thank you to the ones that posted relative Information. It will keep me busy for awhile. I have a lot of learning to do and I have the time. No rush for me.
Honestly, it's just the appearance of the euro lines I prefer. Hate if you want or help if you want. I appreciate all the opinions and advice.
 
#29 ·
Nothing wrong with having an aesthetic preference. I take it this means you like the Euro show lines right?
I'd reinforce what others have said, and agree it is better to import from Europe then. I know there are a few UDC breeders that also have some very good looking Euros but as others have stated they tend to be more work oriented so there dogs may be less 'type-y' in relation to what you have in mind. Worth a look/exploring for sure.

We have a member here named Iceman - I haven't been around lately so I don't know if he's been posting or not, but he's a pretty good resource for Euros and Euro breeders and is himself a breeder. He's from Cyprus and I believe his kennel is Saint Hilarion Templars.

I personally really like the look of the Tahi-Réme (from Hungary) in general. Can't personally vouch for their breeding practices, and they tend to linebreed/inbreed from time to time which I would take a very close at which names are coming back in pedigrees. They're difficult to get a puppy from but when I asked Iceman at the time he said 'if she gives you a puppy don't question it' so I think they're fairly highly regarded. But once more I'd like to stress I cannot personally vouch for them, so you really need to do your homework and decide for yourself. Being highly regarded is not always the same as being ethical.

Do you know how to read pedigrees/how to discern ethical breeders? If not I'd invite you to stick around and learn, this forum can be a wonderful resource. Whatever you decide in the end, there's no rush, it's very much worth laying in the groundwork for research to find your dream dog.
 
#33 ·
Most breeders don't have websites. The ones that do usually post win pix. I hate this because I personally like to see a nice head on a dobe. MOST Dobermans, male and female have their CH. by the time they are 2. In Europe, many don't start really competing until they are 3. So you're seeing a much more mature dog. For example, winners dog and reserve dog at nationals were both 9-12mo old. THAT'S A BABY!!! But that happens because the older more mature dogs are already Champions. Going to a show is your best bet to see looks. Staying away from most Euro breeders is your best bet for a healthy pup.
 
#30 ·
Thank you. I am no pro at researching breeders but I definitely try and put a lot of time and effort into anything I buy. So being a dog/family member, the research will be happening. I've been reading a lot just in the breed itself along with the care and responsibilities. It's tough going down the breeder hole if you know what I mean. I end up real deep and like 4 hours in, and most of the time it ends up getting thrown out. I haven't been posting much, yet. Even if I find a breeder I like, I still have to wait to even get on a list, as I may be going over seas next year for work. I'll know within a month or so. I just wish their were more reputable euros around. I'm a little nervous on importing. But we'll see. Thanks
 
#37 ·
vom Koby Haus

I highly recommend vom Koby Haus Dobermans and Loel Turpin. I know that Chaos vom Koby Haus (SchH III, IPO3, FH2, AD, ZTP 1A, WAC, ROM, VCX, CGC, TDI, CDX, AKC/UDC Chamipon) and Uzel vom Aurachgrund (German Import) are having a litter next week. I have a male from the F litter. I could not be more pleased with Loel and the dogs she produces. Chaos and Uzel are both very confident, social, driven, with great work ethic. I train on a regular basis with Loel and my pups older brother Eto. Eto has off the chart protection. Chaos is the only AKC Champion/Schutzhund III/FH2 Doberman. Chaos' Mom Koby was also Sch III and FH2. You can google vom Koby Haus Dobermans.
 
#38 ·
I highly recommend vom Koby Haus Dobermans and Loel Turpin. I know that Chaos vom Koby Haus (SchH III, IPO3, FH2, AD, ZTP 1A, WAC, ROM, VCX, CGC, TDI, CDX, AKC/UDC Chamipon) and Uzel vom Aurachgrund (German Import) are having a litter next week. I have a male from the F litter. I could not be more pleased with Loel and the dogs she produces. Chaos and Uzel are both very confident, social, driven, with great work ethic. I train on a regular basis with Loel and my pups older brother Eto. Eto has off the chart protection. Chaos is the only AKC Champion/Schutzhund III/FH2 Doberman. Chaos' Mom Koby was also Sch III and FH2. You can google vom Koby Haus Dobermans.
Is this Tide's Dad? If so, he is such a handsome boy!!! I so wish I were closer so Frankie and I could come play with the family!
 
#41 ·
Everytime I start researching breeders and pedigrees, I find something that turns me off. I think I'm getting to picky. I'm starting to sound like some of you on here, negative Nancy's. Some of you give advice and some just want to point out any flaws, no matter how small they may be. I began my research almost six months ago and always referenced this page. But now, the more I read on here, it just turns me away. Everyone that asks for opinions on breeders, gets nothing but negative replies. I'm going to start questioning those, like... If they're so bad then where do you recommend!? If this post offends you, you're probably one of the negative Nancy's hahaha. Maybe try to keep on topic and try not arguing with each other, always negative. thank you j Caprio, I'll look into her. The first recent recommendation I've seen.
 
#42 ·
There won't be any reds in the Case x Uzel litter as Case is dominant black. And I'm not quite sure still what you're looking for in temperament, chances are they're going to be on the tougher side. And they are definitely not going to be couch potatoes<G> Frankie is all go, all the time, and I think the rest are as well, I know at least a couple of others on this forum have pups from this combination, everyone is involved in some sort of performance or sport training. But it might be worth a call to Loel, pups are due next week and I think there might be a couple not yet spoken for as Uzel is HUGE!!!!
 
#48 ·
feverhaus Mitch also uses European bloodlines, might be worth talking to him as well.He has a male Sant Kreal Soldier who I just drool over.

Sharjet Dobermans | thirty years of quality Sharon has some beautiful dogs, not sure of her pedigrees, but she is a delightful person to talk to, works and shows, and is very knowledgeable, and very kind to novice folks!

just a couple of additional possibilities for you to look into
 
#51 ·
I know a nice Sharjet bitch training in IPO.
 
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