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Old 01-12-2009, 02:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone know anything about them? Are they good? I believe they are located in Maine.
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would say they are not good considering they advertise their dobes on puppyfind.com amoung other reasons.
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I would say they are not good considering they advertise their dobes on puppyfind.com amoung other reasons.
Is puppyfind not good? I'm far from ready to get another dobie, I was just looking around. They claim to test throughly; I even brought up Wobbler's and he (Jay the breeder) said none of his Dobies ever had it. Also, he only breeds standards. He charge's alot for his Dobies ($1200). What do you think?
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Is puppyfind not good? I'm far from ready to get another dobie, I was just looking around. They claim to test throughly; I even brought up Wobbler's and he (Jay the breeder) said none of his Dobies ever had it. Also, he only breeds standards. He charge's alot for his Dobies ($1200).
$1200 is WAY too much for puppies from non titled parents. And what about health testing, no mention of that on the site at all.

I think you could do A LOT better somewhere else. That site just screamed backyard breeder to me.
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^Not liking that statement very much..

Their tails look super long in this picture too, or is that just me?


You can get a Doberbaby from health tested, titled parents from reputable breeders for the same amount of money.





I happen to like Sasanoa Dobermans in Maine..Sasanoa
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Err... I'm gonna have to say no on this one


^Not liking that statement very much..

Their tails look super long in this picture too, or is that just me?


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I happen to like Sasanoa Dobermans in Maine..Sasanoa
I think you are spot on LAB! dobermans is not a home biznizz. If they take Visa/Mastercard or payday loans, that would be a big red flag. And the tails are too long.
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I looked at this place earlier today, couldn't believe what I was reading. Home business?? bought 3 to start his breeding. Not a good place for sure. Price is way high for what they have. You can get one from a well bred litter for around that price with ears done.
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Ya know... what burns me up the most about these BYB's is their nerve in thinking they can charge as much a a puppy you can get from champion parents that have been fully health tested! Nerve! Nerve! Nerve!
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Thanks guys for all of your advice. Like I said I'm not looking to get one right now, just looking around. When the time comes, I want to be sure they are tested and free from most problems. I don't want to go through what I did with Monaghan (although realistically, there are no 100% guarantees).

P.S. - The tails did seem long, they look like those hunting dogs.
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Any in L.I.?

Are there any in Long Island that are reputable?
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Yes. Try here: Kalora Dobermans

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Thanks guys for all of your advice. Like I said I'm not looking to get one right now, just looking around. When the time comes, I want to be sure they are tested and free from most problems. I don't want to go through what I did with Monaghan (although realistically, there are no 100% guarantees).

P.S. - The tails did seem long, they look like those hunting dogs.
Yeppers .. those look like Weimaraner docks.
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Ya know... what burns me up the most about these BYB's is their nerve in thinking they can charge as much a a puppy you can get from champion parents that have been fully health tested! Nerve! Nerve! Nerve!
Meanwhile, there are good puppies left from a number of breeders where BOTH parents we titled AND health tested. Sad.
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Breeder of the Kurban dog is Lisa Everedge (sp?) she used to breed under Everdobe. Giles puppy mill has a male from her.
She owned Rascall Flatts and couldn't get him back after he went off for showing. Don't know the story. They should have checked her out BEFORE she bought him! Marsha Smith has also sold some to less than reputable people. I think she is out of breeding now. I've seen some from her in pet breeder homes, some finished, some not.

That is very awful that these people got their hands on these dogs.
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Breeder of the Kurban dog is Lisa Everedge (sp?) she used to breed under Everdobe. Giles puppy mill has a male from her.
She owned Rascall Flatts and couldn't get him back after he went off for showing. Don't know the story. They should have checked her out BEFORE she bought him! Marsha Smith has also sold some to less than reputable people. I think she is out of breeding now. I've seen some from her in pet breeder homes, some finished, some not.

That is very awful that these people got their hands on these dogs.
While I don't think she ever bred albinos herself, Lisa Everidge owned a bunch of z free dogs produced by an albino breeder at one time. Not someone I'd sell a dog to-if you buy from an albino breeder, I doubt you'd have any scruples against selling to them, or making stud services available to them.....

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People really need to not support these greeders! Breed, and breed and breed. And then, how does someone like this, who has bred dogs like this, then get hooked up with and able to breed dogs from reputable breeders? Check out the pedigrees on this site. Everyone needs to SCREEN your homes!!!
OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!! They're breeding that Indigo PUPPY, Feb 2009. He's YOUNGER than Thakoon!
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At the risk of sounding stupid....this breeder got their dogs from both Blue Haze and Reining???? Am I miss understanding?

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I visited their site, they claim to test for alot, including the dredded Wobbler's.
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:25 PM   #21 (permalink)
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You can't test for wobblers.
They got their dogs from less than reputable people. they are breeding some that are strictly pet pedigree. They don't have any that look like show dogs yet they claim to. They really don't have a clue and its very sad that they got their hands on some with good pedigrees.
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Breeder of the Kurban dog is Lisa Everedge (sp?) she used to breed under Everdobe. Giles puppy mill has a male from her.
She owned Rascall Flatts and couldn't get him back after he went off for showing. Don't know the story. They should have checked her out BEFORE she bought him! Marsha Smith has also sold some to less than reputable people. I think she is out of breeding now. I've seen some from her in pet breeder homes, some finished, some not.

That is very awful that these people got their hands on these dogs.
I'm tired & confused(insomnia). Cambria's Rascal Flatt's is missing or they took him back?
And I must be going blind or something-having seen him in person at a show, thought he was pretty & red, but dobequest says he's blue.(?) *hangs head in blind shame*

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[quote=Q734;329445]I'm tired & confused(insomnia). Cambria's Rascal Flatt's is missing or they took him back?
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It sounds like the breeders took him back.
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And I must be going blind or something-having seen him in person at a show, thought he was pretty & red, but dobequest says he's blue.(?) *hangs head in blind shame*
He's definitely blue. You can see a pic of him on the Cambria website in their stud dog section.
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who owns the kettle cover dog these people are planning on breeding to?
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