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Litter size?

Does anyone know the average size of a dobe’s litter? Does it vary greatly?
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That depends on many factors, fertility of the bitch, time of breeding, etc. etc. Average seems to be around 8.


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This is a statistic that I compiled for the DPCC a few times when the studbooks come out. It's been pretty consistent at about 6.2 - 6.4 when I've averaged it out. However, there are probably some people who don't report puppies who pass away for some reason.
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thanks I was thinking around that but wanted some other thoughts.
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I've heard that 7 is more the average, but I don't know if that is backed up by any kind of statistics like Mary's are. For sure it varies widely!!

I personally would think that 6-8 would be a perfect size litter - too bad we can't order it that way :biggrin55: I will say that 5 for my first litter was a good size - not too overwhelming..... like say 10 would be - Yikes!

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I've heard that 7 is more the average, but I don't know if that is backed up by any kind of statistics like Mary's are. For sure it varies widely!!

I personally would think that 6-8 would be a perfect size litter - too bad we can't order it that way :biggrin55: I will say that 5 for my first litter was a good size - not too overwhelming..... like say 10 would be - Yikes!
Velma, I know someone who "did it right" with her German shorthair bitch and got--wait for it--17 puppies on her very first litter she ever bred!

Ahem. She never bred again, hehe.

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oh god, 17! that would have done me in. I was thinking my girl would have litters of 6, her mother consistently did. Nope, 10 first time out of the gate. It was a ton of work, so glad I had help, and then this time it's 9, actually seems easier. But now at 7 weeks, I'll be happy to start letting them go to their new homes, will be nice to be able to concentrate on just my pup.

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Velma, I know someone who "did it right" with her German shorthair bitch and got--wait for it--17 puppies on her very first litter she ever bred!

Ahem. She never bred again, hehe.
Holy smokes 17!!! that must of been crazy! I'm just so Curious because i'm on a waiting list with 6 other people so i'm wondering my odds ya know.
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Personally speaking, I wouldn't want to be on a waiting list with 6 other people *unless* they were all waiting specifically and rigidly for a sex/colour I did not want.

I still laugh when I think about a fellow that called me one day all upset because his chosen breeder's litter had arrived and he was number 14 on the list, and he wasn't getting a puppy! I couldn't help but say "did you really think there would be 14?"
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Velma, I know someone who "did it right" with her German shorthair bitch and got--wait for it--17 puppies on her very first litter she ever bred!

Ahem. She never bred again, hehe.
And there you have it -- the reason we never bred our champion GSP. They think nothing of dropping 12-15 puppies. I would have run screaming from my house and never looked back!
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I find in my area the most common number seems to be ten. My girl was from a litter of two, but her moms second litter was 10, she was from a litter of ten and and her mother before that was from ten! There is the occasional singleton (or two) that pop that drag down the average but I think the most common is ten when everything goes well. My boy was from a litter of 9 I think, and his sister had 3 litters, something like 10, 11 then 13.
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Jazz's grandma had 12 (Breeders first litter), 11, and 13.
Jazz's Aunt had 12
Jazz's mom had 6
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Personally speaking, I wouldn't want to be on a waiting list with 6 other people *unless* they were all waiting specifically and rigidly for a sex/colour I did not want.

I still laugh when I think about a fellow that called me one day all upset because his chosen breeder's litter had arrived and he was number 14 on the list, and he wasn't getting a puppy! I couldn't help but say "did you really think there would be 14?"
ok now that is funny 14 and he thought he had a chance? LOL:biggrin55:I wanted to go with a breeder that was in my driving range so I could visit and check out the place and her dogs I took my time and found great breeder, However she is very picky with who she places her pups with and I am 1 of 6 which order we all fall in i'm not sure I think we won't know till the pups are born. Any suggestions on what I should do?
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Be as flexible as possible and don't get hung up on colour. One completely understands if you can't have a male because you have a male already. Being non-flexible there is quite ok. Otherwise, the easier you can be the better the possibility is of getting a puppy.
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Be as flexible as possible and don't get hung up on colour. One completely understands if you can't have a male because you have a male already. Being non-flexible there is quite ok. Otherwise, the easier you can be the better the possibility is of getting a puppy.
yeah I really want a male but I'm second guessing that because i have 3 male toy dogs already so i'm not sure. I'm thinking I should let the breeder make the Decision for me.
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But are they velcro?
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But are they velcro?
My boy, Hogan, is an absolute love, my real heart dog. But I must say my female, Cali, is stuck to me like glue. Her affection is given on her terms though, where Hogan is up for snuggles whenever and wherever. So it really depends on what you define velcro as. I love having one of each. If I could only have 1 dog, it'd be a male Doberman though (no one tell Cali!). If I had several other males dogs already (regardless of breed/size), I'd opt for a female. Just my $.02.


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Not quite on topic but the world record for litter size is 24 from a Neopolitan Mastiff. My ex's litter only had 2.
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But are they velcro?
LOL I can't go anywhere on my own, Mocha is super velcro as have many of the rescues I have fostered!!! One day I will be able to pee, put on my shoes, etc alone! LOL
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And there you have it -- the reason we never bred our champion GSP. They think nothing of dropping 12-15 puppies. I would have run screaming from my house and never looked back!

I have a bitch that produces 10-16 puppies, others 7-11, one that has 4-6. yep, with the 16 pups, I didn't think they'd ever stop coming...she had them packed in there like sardines!! They all survived and only had 2 that were noticeably smaller than the others....we had request from 14 families to have them cropped so we had 14 racked at once!! What a zoo! Was REALLY glad when it was time to send them home!!! Was truly a litter to remember! We retired Tryston after that litter....she'd earned it.
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Ha, and with my chinchillas, triplets make me cringe!

So glad I don't have to deal with upwards of 10+ kits from a single mom!

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Not quite on topic but the world record for litter size is 24 from a Neopolitan Mastiff. My ex's litter only had 2.
um 24!!!! that poor mom she must of been very busy LOL
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Get busy and fill out applications or questionnaires with about 3 or 4 breeders whose dogs and philosophies you like, and don't put down deposits you can't get back... tell them you want whatever it is you have decided on, and ask them to give you an idea of where you fall on their priority list. Seems to me it's better to know what your chances are. We want a certain type of pup, and because we know the breeders who interest us, and the numbers of people who might want the same type of pup, we are just pretty upfront about it, so everyone is on the same page.
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