Anyone know about Maximus Dobermans? - Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums

DobieQueen · 07-16-2008, 08:28 PM

I've been doing some research on local breeders in the Greater Seattle Area and the cleanest, family raised Doberman puppies i've seen are at Maximus Dobermans. I think i've talked to all the breeders that i can find and so far i'm most impressed with these dogs and the way they are breeding. They arent a large puppy mill or breeder but just have the 2 that have been breed and they are beautiful dogs. Just curious if anyone has had any experience with this breeder? Good or bad comments?? I want to make sure i get the best out there for the money.

Blitzkreig · 07-16-2008, 08:38 PM

Hmm Maybe its just me but there only claim to fame is they have a pair of AKC registered Dobermans. I didnt see anything about health testing, or Titles. I would keep looking. I do admit thou ive never heard of them therefore have no personal experiance with them. so this is just my initial impression.

**greenkouki** · 07-16-2008, 08:40 PM

Check the DPCA breeder referral for your area. There should be a lot of good doberman breeders to talk to. Doberman Pinscher Club of America

sorthund · 07-16-2008, 08:41 PM

DobieQueen, we've been in contact via PM.... as I said before I think you can do better. I asked you for more details on the breeders that you've contacted, but haven't heard back from you. I would not buy from Maximus! You'll have to be patient and get in contact with better breeders. Wingate Dobermans, Sherluck Dobermans, Starlaine, Cathy Ceely are some of the ones I can think of quickly that are local and great breeders who health test and title their dogs, and breed in order to better the Doberman. Do a search under these names. Have you been in contact with Seattle Doberman Rescue? They often have young dogs available.

Julie W · 07-16-2008, 08:43 PM

There is actually a very large selection of really good breeders in the Pacific NW, but IMO Maximus isn't one of them. I wouldn't get a puppy from there.

Incredibledobe · 07-16-2008, 09:10 PM

Do they have a website?

workingk9s · 07-16-2008, 09:48 PM

They do.

MAXIMUS DOBERMANS |

"Also please make yourself very aware of "Backyard Breeders". So, why are back yard breeders a problem? Well, they just breed dogs for the sake of it. They may have a sweet pet they want to try and reproduce or they think that their dogs are quality because they have papers and/or are registered with some registry. They think maybe they can make a few dollars selling pups, etc. They just put out dogs without real consideration for the future of not only the breed but the puppies produced.Often, BYBs breed dogs with faults. This perpetuates fault and problems in the breed. They do nothing to prove their dogs are of sound temperament and that they are breeding good representatives of the breed, etc. They just breed. And often, they do not even breed purebreds. Some BYBs "create" neat sounding things and think they are breeds, like a mix of two purebred's that just make a mutt. "

I am glad they cleared up the definition of a backyard breeder. I was confused for a moment.

triciakoontz · 07-16-2008, 10:35 PM

That poor female at Maximus - she is strictly a money-making producer in my opinion. If the biggest brag they can put on their website is that their dogs are AKC registered - RUN.

Blitzkreig · 07-16-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by triciakoontz

That poor female at Maximus - she is strictly a money-making producer in my opinion. If the biggest brag they can put on their website is that their dogs are AKC registered - RUN.

Can i get an (((AhMen))) lol

I wonder how much they get for there pups from untested parents with no titles. I mean it only costs about 10 bucks to do Dew Claws and Tail Dockings per pup. and ib be willing to bet they come uncropped also. But then what do i know.

Kahlua · 07-16-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by workingk9s

"Also please make yourself very aware of "Backyard Breeders". So, why are back yard breeders a problem? Well, they just breed dogs for the sake of it. They may have a sweet pet they want to try and reproduce or they think that their dogs are quality because they have papers and/or are registered with some registry. They think maybe they can make a few dollars selling pups, etc. They just put out dogs without real consideration for the future of not only the breed but the puppies produced.Often, BYBs breed dogs with faults. This perpetuates fault and problems in the breed. They do nothing to prove their dogs are of sound temperament and that they are breeding good representatives of the breed, etc. They just breed. And often, they do not even breed purebreds. Some BYBs "create" neat sounding things and think they are breeds, like a mix of two purebred's that just make a mutt. "

I am glad they cleared up the definition of a backyard breeder. I was confused for a moment.

Don't they realize who they described on their own website?

Like A Boxer · 07-16-2008, 11:25 PM

I don't know them, but I just have to say that their grammar skills are not up to par...

"pic's" "Pinscher's" "your" instead of "you're" "threw" instead of "through"

I mean I am not really too picky about things but c'mon! Everyone makes mistakes but some of these mistakes....shiver me timbers.

-JB.

Blitzkreig · 07-16-2008, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by juliabustard

I don't know them, but I just have to say that their grammar skills are not up to par...

"pic's" "Pinscher's" "your" instead of "you're" "threw" instead of "through"

I mean I am not really too picky about things but c'mon! Everyone makes mistakes but some of these mistakes....shiver me timbers.

-JB.

No wonder i was able to read thru there website so fast they went to the same school as i did. Well at least learned the same way i did. :biggrin55:

Like A Boxer · 07-17-2008, 08:40 AM

Blitz...nails on a chalkboard....

But you're not a BYB with poor grammar skills so it's okay!

-JB.

DobeMom616 · 07-17-2008, 04:01 PM

Run... Run very fast from this "breeder". Good grief.

lolonurse · 07-17-2008, 09:54 PM

LOL!! I just wrote "good grief" on the Stormhaus question... and came to this thread to find out I've plagiarized you!!! lois

Destinypwr · 07-17-2008, 10:05 PM

So, I guess what is being said on here is that if a person can't spell then we shouldn't buy a puppy from them? After looking through this entire thread I'm at a loss because I didn't realize being able to spell correctly and being absolutely perfect had anything to do with being a responsible breeder. The real question is, "Has anyone actually heard of them or viewed their puppies?"

wantsaDobe · 07-17-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Destinypwr

So, I guess what is being said on here is that if a person can't spell then we shouldn't buy a puppy from them? After looking through this entire thread I'm at a loss because I didn't realize being able to spell correctly and being absolutely perfect had anything to do with being a responsible breeder. The real question is, "Has anyone actually heard of them or viewed their puppies?"

Did you miss the part about breeding dogs with no health certifications, working and/or conformation titles? Weird that you choose the one post made in jest to respond to...

Destinypwr · 07-17-2008, 10:45 PM

I didn't respond to any particular post that I am aware of, although it may seem that way, since it is my first time post. I am really responding to the overall messages. All of the posts were about this and that but the questions was about had anyone heard of them. I too have seen their website but not being in the "breeding" world I love my little guy enormously. So it wasn't directed at you but the entire thread. Does anyone know first hand about this breeder or is everything more or less heresay?

**greenkouki** · 07-17-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Destinypwr

I didn't respond to any particular post that I am aware of, although it may seem that way, since it is my first time post. I am really responding to the overall messages. All of the posts were about this and that but the questions was about had anyone heard of them. I too have seen their website but not being in the "breeding" world I love my little guy enormously. So it wasn't directed at you but the entire thread. Does anyone know first hand about this breeder or is everything more or less heresay?

I think most people on here view breeding dobermans as an art that should be left only to the professionals. When a website lacks professionalism it can say a lot about that person's intentions.

Like A Boxer · 07-17-2008, 11:09 PM

No, destiny, grammar is not everything. Breeding two dogs does not mean quality breeding, however. And I see nothing to make me think they breed the way it should be done. Of course maybe they choose not to divulge certain information but I see no titles, no health test results................

-JB.

lolonurse · 07-17-2008, 11:47 PM

Look at their photos - their dogs are Dobermans in name only - they certainly aren't really lovely representatives of the breed standard. They are obviously pets, because their ears are pet cut, not show. They may be sweet dogs, but they aren't "proven" in any way - conformation, obedience, Schutzhund, or anything that proves their value as members of their breed. And there's no mention of their status vis-a-vis von Willebrand's Disease, thyroid, hips, eyes, cardio, elbows, longevity... These are not professionals. They are BYB, who have a couple of dogs and mate them. That's not any sort of endorsement, and it sure as heck isn't a way to reliably know what you're going to get! Even if you just want a pet, you want one about whose background you know something substantial. Responsible breeders finish their dogs, so it is clear they are among the best representatives of the breed. Lois

Kloe05 · 07-18-2008, 01:00 AM

I have a Maximus Doberman! He is the love of my life! His temperment is wonderful, he is beautiful and obedient. I realize that I have not had my dogs ear's cropped, but, that is my choice, as I like the ears down, because I like a softer look, and he is my PET! It is nice that Maximus gives the option that you may crop or not! They do have the tails docked and dew claws removed at a veterinary clinic. I have been to where the pups were raised previous to moving to a home-not a backyard breeding ground. I can tell you that the young lady who breeds them spends 24-7 with the pups-not in a kennel!!!!! She slept with them and made sure that they were in great condition before going to their new homes. There was a reunion of the parents and pups this summer, and I can tell you, every one of the dogs had perfect manners. There was not even a growl in the group. That's pretty good when you have 15 dogs together. Their ears may not be perfect on some of the pups, but that is not the fault of the breeder, but rather the choice of the new owner's vet or whoever cropped them. I have had other breeds, and yes, this is my first Doberman, but, I truly have gained a new respect for the breed. I would have had one many years ago, if I had known how wonderful they are. THAT.....can in GREAT part be due to the breeding pair!!! And those of you who are breeders know that!!! You need to let a new breeder get a start, and BACK OFF!!! Perhaps you are AFRAID that a younger generation is coming along and doing a good job!!! The dogs are the best, well taken care of, dogs and pups around! Do you spend 24-7 with your pups? What is your intention here? Are we not to encourage one another, rather than tear the new generation down? Give them a chance. Where did you start? There probably wasn't a forum that provided a place to put others bad opinions of your dogs on it, when you first started. You probably haven't even seen the dogs. Are you going on hearsay, and do you understand that it is called slander? Let these new breeders have a chance to get their new website in order. There may not be every little detail that you are looking for, but, it will surely be coming. You could go and ask before you gossip. Now. I've said my piece. Go ahead and slam me too!

Blitzkreig · 07-18-2008, 01:19 AM

I think i might go hide in the celler before the s*** storm hits.

DoubleDoberMom · 07-18-2008, 02:01 AM

Hey DobieQueen,
Feel free to PM me or call me at 206 304 0778. I don't know what real experience the other people have had with Maximus Dobermans but I'd be happy to tell you about mine.

My partner and I started our hunt for a Doberman approximately 2 years ago. She asked around for recommendations and called and spoke with a number of breeders. I can't tell who they were specifically because I didn't get into it until she suggested we meet Kristina, of Maximus Dobermans. My parents bred Black Labs when I was younger and I felt like I knew the questions to ask re genetics and bloodlines. I was impressed with all the information Kris gave us about her dogs bloodlines and the extensive testing etc that she had done to ensure healthy pups. We felt that we received open and honest answers to all of our questions. When we saw how healthy and well adjusted Brutus and Portia were, we knew we had found our breeder. We put a deposit on a puppy and waited for the happy day. From the first day the pups were born, she communicated with us, keeping us informed at each stage of their development. Sonogram pics, how short the tail would be, explaining the dewclaw removal, etc. She was always friendly and available whenever we had ANY questions. We did not feel that our babies could be in a better or more loving environment than they were. We ended up getting 2 pups from her first litter, a red male and a black female. These dogs (whelped end of Feb. 07) are the absolute joy of my life! Everywhere we go we are told how beautiful these dogs are. Kris has been there every step of the way with answers to any questions we have had. When we found out that Portia would be having a second litter, we decided to get one as a gift for our nephew. This dog has turned out to be the joy of his family also. She visits us and plays with our wonderful dogs frequently. This past May, Kris and Matt organized a Maximus Reunion for their first two litters. What a blast! All those beautiful dogs hanging out together without a problem. Check the website for pics. (As far as I know it wasn't meant to be any kind of a "pro" website meant to convince you to buy, but more of a "family place" she put up for us all to see pics and get news about our fellow Maximus owners and dogs) Whatever people think about this being an aggressive breed gets blown out of the water when you hang out with the Maximus Dobes. Every single one of those dogs were beautiful and well mannered. It was a pleasure to participate. We made a good public show that day of how wonderful Dobermans can be. I'd be happy to wholeheartedly recommend Kristina and Maximus Dobermans to anyone looking for a quality and loving addition to their family.

Kate Barrett

Kloe05 · 07-18-2008, 02:28 AM

I have spent a great amount of time reading and studying the messages on this site: ie Maximus Dobermans. I own and operate a significant business in the NW. I am NOT a Dog Breeder, however, one of our companies deals w/advertising. I am shocked at the garbage I am reading.It's obvious that most people on blog, or open forums have personal agendas. I would think that most of these enteries should be held accountable for their comments and be identified. It would appear most are jealous BREEDERS. It's a shame on the internet that people can print and comments or garbage, not identify themselves or be accountable for their words and actions on any imput on the internet. In regards to the comments I have read, I am ashamed of what I read and wonder who organizes these people to leave such comments. It's obvious they are NOT owners of dogs from this breeder. I think most of the people leaving such comments need to look in their back yards, and pens! If you are a breeder do you give your dogs away?? or do you collect a fee?? If this kind of crap went on in the industries I am engaged, in or control, this kind of garbages would not be tolerrated.There are controls and monitored.