MaryAndDobes

It's not only that. There is also a problem with people only hearing / understanding what they want to hear / understand. Some people are so blind to the faults (or don't understand them so glaze over on that part) and they only hear the good and then they think so and so said my dog is wonderful and I should breed her.

Personally, it drives me crazy when people are so quick to post that every dog posted here is "beautiful", "stunning", "handsome", etc. On the one hand, it's nice to be complimentary about people's pets but OTOH, it is one of the things that leads to irresponsible breeding. How many times have we heard of a byb saying "well, my vet said she is beautiful", or my neighbour said "she's the most beautiful Doberman they ever saw" or my cousin/barber/brother-in-law/dentist, etc said something similar? Too, too many times. Unfortunately, it does make me extremely hesitant to compliment anyone's pet lest they take it the wrong way and decide that a nice, shiny coat (or any other singular good point) is a reason to breed ...

thea2003

Wait I've got a good one for you, I bet no one has ever heard before,
I was walking my dog, and a guy in town who has a blue dobe male, thinks my dog is so pretty, personally i think his dog is hideous, WAAAYY too big and he has a head that looks like a bullet.

Anyways the first time i saw him he told me i should call him to get the 2 dogs together i said ummm no im not breeding her.

Then i saw him last week and he said to the dog
"You get prettier and prettier everytime I see you.
If I were a dog, I would want to date you"
Can you say just a little creepy? lol

Blitzkreig

Good post, But i believe people like you describe above are gonna breed there bitches or dogs no matter what anybody says good or bad. I also think a persons opinion of what make a doberman beautiful are as far and wide as the grand canyon. I personally think the OP has a great looking doberman. I dont think he should be bred and i definatly dont think hed take many points in the AKC. but hes a beautiful dog none the less.

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Bilclarie

A Dobe is a Dobe until you want to breed or show, she looks lovely as a pet dog which is what I assume she is and as long as she's healthy and you love her it doesn't matter what anyone else think's.
The picture possibly doesn't do her justise you need a side stand so that people can she her shape properly, from where I'm looking she looks over weight and her top line isn't good but that could be the angle she's standing in, but she is a very pretty girl.

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triciakoontz

Sorry that it drives you crazy when people compliment dogs on the forum that are not "show quality". However, it seems to me that this forum is not a "show forum". If it were and people were complimenting dogs with less than stellar conformation I could understand your concern.

The truth is that Dobermans are just plain beautiful, noble, handsome, etc., in all their permutations. Thank goodness someone does love each of the "non-perfect" Dobermans. Nobody means that the dog should go into the show ring or be bred when they give a compliment here. I don't think the people asking are, in any way, taking compliments given here as a go-ahead to breed. If someone is going to be a BYB, no amount of compliments or criticisms on DT will be changing that.

I think that all the threads that educate DT members on backyard breeding are a great balance for the way that I compliment dogs that are not breeding quality. The truth is that I do really think they are pretty or handsome or whatever and I want to say it.

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MaryAndDobes

With all due respect, you have no idea what motivates the people here to do what they do or how what is said to them will be perceived and/or acted upon or not acted upon.

I've seen posters from dobermantalk on other forums and advertising on seedy puppy marketing sites, and trust me - they aren't all who you think they are. Some of these are/were well accepted posters here and they're out there trolling in other places for stud dogs for their "pets" and I've seen some of the dogs we got to know here being dumped on other sites.

Everyone here is not "nice" and "trustworthy" and in this for the good of Dobermans. There are albino breeders here, there are backyard breeders and wannabe bybs here - make no mistake. The intentions of every poster here are not stellar. That's why I think we have to watch what we say in a lot of instances.

In the Hamptons

I just gotta say~ she's a doberman and would make a fabulous performance dog. Have fun with her, be proud of her. Adore her and show her in a venue that she will be successful in. So much fun to be had... obedience, rally, agility, schutzhund, tracking, therapy work~ honestly, it just goes on and on. Find something that you both love to do and go do it.

Keghead

Big thanks to all. I found out what I needed to know. I did not buy a show dog. I knew that. She comes from a long line of Mississippi farm dogs. I had the pleasure of going and seeing them work, and home with the children.
Sasha trains on the weekend with me at homeland defense training center. She can be 50 feet away from gun fire and be taking a nap. Unless I am at work she is with me. While I am at work she takes care of my wife at home in a wheelchair.
Dobermans are very rare around here. I get told how good looking she is all the time. But I never have had plans to breed her. I am far too selfish with my time. I have had a few people with very large males ask if I would like to.. I told them both nicely if I had wanted a Great Dane I would have bought one.
I did enjoy reading all the responses I got. Thanks again !

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Hound

Keghead, let me give my regards for taking the critiques so well. Many people explode when they get honest ones, and you got several honest ones that I agree with. Looking at the faults of a dog with an impersonal eye is hard to do and harder to take.

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