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Old 04-28-2008, 06:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Retta I was going to post the exact same thing. I also think it is better to do a back to back once than to breed once a year for 4 or 5 years in a row. I know of a vet that recommends it for giant breeds too.

Thea2003, I think I know who you are referring to, and I'm pretty sure that her bitch did have a heat in between her last litter and her breeding.


Im not sure you do know the breeder.... She isnt necessarily what i would call a "breeder" Pups arent registered, just happen to be dobes.
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:22 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Im not sure you do know the breeder.... She isnt necessarily what i would call a "breeder" Pups arent registered, just happen to be dobes.
Oh I know that the person I am referring to does register, so it must be someone else :-)
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:40 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks Gatehouse, I wasnt aware that person was doing it as well!!!!
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Old 04-29-2008, 12:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Thanks Gatehouse, I wasnt aware that person was doing it as well!!!!
By "doing it as well" If you mean having a litter, yes, as far as I know she has planned one for sometime this summer but her bitch has had a heat and she's done her homework :-)
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Old 04-29-2008, 02:21 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Homework is fine the fact still remains 8 months together is pretty close.
But who am i to judge. Not my dog.
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From what I have been told back to back in bad in most cases. At least one heat between litters. However if litter #1 was only 1 or 2 puppies and it didnt take to much out of the bitch then doing another one right away is OK.

Personaly i would do 1 heat between.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:44 PM   #17 (permalink)
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ummm would wanting to have a summer litter be compelling enough? lol
Not in my opinion.

It is sometimes recommended for a bitch who may have fertility issues that they be bred on successive heats. But unless this sort of recommendation comes from a top notch repro vet and the bitch, literally, has irreplacable blood lines I'd much rather avoid continuing fertility issues (which is certainly a possibility) by trying to force pregnancies in this fashion.

Geeze--"I'm breeding her in eight months because I don't want to deal with a winter litter"--what a reason!!!!!
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:54 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Im not sure you do know the breeder.... She isnt necessarily what i would call a "breeder" Pups arent registered, just happen to be dobes.
ARGH!!! My personal opinion is that if the breeder isn't bothering to breed registered dogs they probably shouldn't be breeding at all. Even one litter is too much and more is ridiculous.

Sorry! I always suspect if purebred dogs aren't registered that there is some reason--all too often it's because they can't be registered. The breeding usually turns out to be from some bitch or sired by some dog who was sold as a pet on a limited registration.

There aren't enough good homes for the registered dogs that are produced these days.
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Not in my opinion.

It is sometimes recommended for a bitch who may have fertility issues that they be bred on successive heats. But unless this sort of recommendation comes from a top notch repro vet and the bitch, literally, has irreplacable blood lines I'd much rather avoid continuing fertility issues (which is certainly a possibility) by trying to force pregnancies in this fashion.

Geeze--"I'm breeding her in eight months because I don't want to deal with a winter litter"--what a reason!!!!!
Beyond that, it just seems to me that breeding back to back wouldn't give you enough time to evaluate what you really got in the first litter before you were breeding the second. Giving yourself more time between litters would give you more information and thus let you make better choices.

Based on how the first litter turned out, you might decide to go in a totally different direction for a second litter, or maybe not breed the bitch at all a second time.
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Beyond that, it just seems to me that breeding back to back wouldn't give you enough time to evaluate what you really got in the first litter before you were breeding the second. Giving yourself more time between litters would give you more information and thus let you make better choices.

Based on how the first litter turned out, you might decide to go in a totally different direction for a second litter, or maybe not breed the bitch at all a second time.
Bingo!! I'm planning on putting at least a year between litters for just this reason - Oh, and I don't want to do a winter litter again either - but instead of breeding again soon, you can wait longer............ for me this means putting 1 1/2 years between litters.
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