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04-17-2008, 01:03 PM
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| Indiana Noon Shine I want to preface this by saying that I am NOT looking to buy a doberman from this breeder. This is a breeder that I came across when I began my search for a doberman. I had not found DobermanTalk before I got Roxy from Hand Me Down Dobes Rescue. Once I found this site, I searched on this breeder to see what you all had to say about them, and I didn't find anything. I wanted to post this to get others opinions on the breeder to help anyone else who might be searching for a breeder and come across them. Personally, I saw Red Flags all over the place, but I'd love to get fellow DT members opinions posted to (hopefully) help others. The website is: Indiana Noon Shine Home Page
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04-17-2008, 01:11 PM
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| well Uggghhhh - red flags indeed is the best I can come up with.
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04-17-2008, 03:04 PM
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| Good gosh. That is one of the saddest things I have ever seen. It's rare that a puppy mill like this will actually post photos. Enough to make you sick.
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04-17-2008, 03:29 PM
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| "Welcome to the home of The Millers"
What a perfect last name for them!!!
GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
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04-17-2008, 03:33 PM
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Location: Fayetteville, AR Dogs Name: Alex, Holli, Guilty, Bama, Rachael, Kobe (chi), Frisco (chi) Titles: Ch, Ch, Dogs Age: 7yrs, 7yrs, 2 yrs, 10 months, 11 weeks, 9 yrs, 5 yrs
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| You think thats bad. Look at Harradens Dobie Den. They are working on their 6th litter for this year. And the last one they had they claim are "show quality". One bitch that had a litter a few months ago, it was I believe her 6th litter. They breed lots of fawns. The only testing they do is VWD which is a big red flag right there. Pet breeders seem to ONLY test for vwd and nothing else. |
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04-18-2008, 09:04 AM
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| Thanks everyone for the replies. Hopefully having this information here will help others who might be searching in my area. Even though I knew literally nothing at the time my search began, I just knew this wasn't good. Thank goodness for gut feelings, right?  |
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04-18-2008, 09:23 AM
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Location: Barrie, Ontario Dogs Name: Grace, Rex, Anna, Abba Titles: CKC Champion, TT, CGN, faster eaters in North America, bed warmers Dogs Age: 5 years, 21 months, 11 months
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| gee, they have puppy mill written all over them, 3 breeds and they get their dobe studs from Kimbertal! but it is a nice looking website and the uninformed will be sucked in. What a shame.
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05-03-2008, 09:41 PM
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| | Big Pup | Harradens Dobie Den is a horrible puppymill Harradens Dobie Den owned by Lisa Harraden is a horrible kennel to consider adopting a Doberman pup from. Their puppies are chained outside and money is the ONLY reason they breed. There are many reputable breeders in NC to choose from. Don't waste your time or money at Harradens Dobie Den Harradens Dobieden Horrible Facts read before you buy from Lisa Harraden |
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05-08-2008, 10:25 PM
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| | Big Pup | Looks like several people like Harraden's Dobieden Satisfied Customers
They test all their dogs for vWD. The vWD affected dog mentioned here is only bred to a clear male. And they have 13 dogs! Why shouldn't they have 7-8 litters a year when they have 9-10 females? How many of you know that Marienburg's Repo Man was vWD affected? Oh wow! Guess he shouldn't have been bred either. And he died at a very young age. Hmmmm, guess he was a really bad dog too since he died so young. Is everyone so paranoid about this great breeder that they feel threatened? Did anyone ask why this breeder does not show her dogs? Could it be that both Ernie and Lisa work full time? Could it be that they also breed exotic birds for zoos and have quite a bit of time and money invested in the health of their aviary inhabitants? Why is everyone jumping the gun before questioning the breeder? I've seen their dogs. They are not on chains. They are in spacious outdoor pens where they get plenty of fresh air and sunshine. They also live in a temperature controlled kennel with private pens. Just because their dogs are outside does not mean they don't care for them. I bet their dogs are taken care of a lot better than most owners one one or two dogs. I think if I was reincarnated as a dog, I'd beg to be one of their dobermans.  |
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05-08-2008, 11:15 PM
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| | waiting for Mr. Red
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Originally Posted by dobermomma Could it be that both Ernie and Lisa work full time? | Why are you speaking in the third person?
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