Soccermom

Okay.
This is only my second day and it may be a big mistake but MY Faline was a Kimbertal breeder. I did not read the whole thread because OMG!
It was years ago when I had Faline going to Kimbertal for ear taping. I remember Cathy Albertson a rottweiler breeder from NJ who created a big stink because she told the Colonial rottweiler club that she bred to Kimbertal's studs because Kimbertal was more honest and they returned her phone calls. I think their was a big editorial on the club members helping novices more. I remember the discussion in the office at Kimbertal that day. She had bought a female by the number 1 stud at the time Bubba, who had etropian(the female, not Bubba) and the breeder had told her that it was fixable so she would not replace the female. I know the breeder was close to Kimbertal because Cathy was coming from there and the local paper had an article on Bubba in it about that time. Cathy had the Colonial newsletter in her hand. She gave me her card which I still have in my box of business cards. I keep stupid things!
Faline was a sweet fawn doberman with a good soft coat(I heard fawns can be coarse). Way back then it was two litters back but they paid you something after each litter. I hear it is one litter now.
Well, on her first litter she got big but on her due date looked wrong. I can't explain it but I knew something was wrong. I called Kimbertal and went through the son( I did not get along with him and I hear it is better now that he is not there) to the owner, Bob. Bob listened to me and said if it would make me feel better take her to Ludwig's Corner Vet for a check up at their expense. I went as soon as I could get an appointment.
The x-ray showed one very large dead puppy. The resulting c-section was not going well as there was an infection. I heard them call Kimbertal and Kimbertal was asked if they wanted Faline to be put down or spayed. The spaying would be a fair price as tissue was dead. The owner had them ask me for a decison and if I would keep the dog were she spayed and I said of course. The spaying was not an easy surgery as everything was enlarged and a lot of fluid spilled from somewhere. It took a long time, or at least it seemed like hours and I was crying. They kept her overnight after letting me spend some time with her. Doctor Hoffman was my vet after that as he saved Faline. She actually bounced back very quickly.
Kimbertal paid for everything and sent me Faline's papers. She lived many years after that although she leaked a little urine from being spayed.
I stopped reading the posts where everyone was ranting about profit being their only motive. I have seen them sympathize with many customers and Bob, Sr. gave my girlfriend her money back in full when her dog had a problem at age three. Again, the son was not like that but the owner is. I am sure not everyone is happy but I just thought I would let you know that they do care about the dogs and that they spent $1000 on a dog that was not going to give then any return.
I live near them and everyone either loves them or hates them. I may stop over today to see the dogs that the controversy is about. No matter what you say here they always welcome me and I never spent a cent there. They do talk to you and take time to visit no matter what. Years ago no show breeder would do that. Hopefully some on the forum will even though I am not in the position to get a doberman.