I was doing a Google search on the breeder we got Dax from 11 1/2 years ago but I was very hesitant to go back to them because of too many litters. When we got Dax, they were recommended by the person we got our previous Doberman, Lonesome. Also, at that time, I didn't have a computer to do any research. After Dax died, I started doing tons of research on line, through Doberman rescue groups in PA, and the DPCA and it was an eye opener. This is such a great forum. So much helpful information and nice people. Thanks.